Canada sells same insulin for 90% off

IN August, 1965, my wife and I were wanting to use the eastern entrance to Yellowstone. It had snowed the previous night, and we had to wait more than an hour for the snow plows to clear the road. The roads inside the park had already been plowed. Later that day the sun was bright, and the temperature was much better. It was a very nice visit to Yellowstone, our first.

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I’ve seen Yellowstone just once and must say it was the coolest thing I’ve ever seen besides Carlsbad Caverns. We were there in the summer maybe 3-5 years ago, got to the park at dawn and it was around 32 degrees. Got some really cool photos of the mist coming off of the fields at sun up. We couldn’t see all of the park in the one day we spent there so I think we might go back, god willing.

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My uncle was a doctor in Canada and reported none of this, nor have our relatives there. One of my father’s cousin I believe received a bone marrow treatment for a blood cancer, no wait, for free pretty much, and he is alive today because of it.

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Norway Germany, Britain, Canada and Cuba that all have what some people call socialized healthcare but is otherwise known as universal healthcare. provide excellent health services to it’s citizens. Unlike the US nobody is left out because they don’t have a credit card handy or because they have lost the job that paid for their insurance. Canada where I live has had universal healthcare for nearly a century without the sky falling down. Here is a link to an article in today’s local newspaper about MRI wait times in my province of BC, incidentally.

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The import from Canada vote

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More details link below.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/s20

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LOL! I think you are overstating your case.

That’s apples and oranges, @Dave44. Provincial delivery of healthcare and health services vs. when Tandem’s T:slim gets approved for use in Canada (or the G6, or Afrezza, although I think we had Fiasp before you guys).

My original point is that not everyone is happy with the systems outside of the US. Just like those in the US have issues with price, coverage rules.

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If anything I am understating my case. Nine years ago I had a cardiac arrest with a resulting severe brain injury. However, thanks to the excellent quality of care at Vancouver General Hospital I made a full recovery. And since then I havent paid a penny for any of my medications or follow ups with my cardiologist. But I do live in BC and those who have to endure thefiscal conservatism` of the far right Doug Ford government in Ontario have my sympathy.

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Not the same circumstances, but I’ve had a similar experience in that when I was born I was very premature and spent many months in the intensive care unit. To this day, I wonder if my life would be different had I been born in the US where my parents, even with insurance (which they may not have had), would have had to bear some of the immediate cost of my extremely expensive care on top of the stress of having to take time off work and worrying that their baby might not make it.

No system is perfect, but the Canadian one has certainly served me well, including keeping me and several family members alive through numerous life-threatening circumstances and allowing me to manage my chronic illnesses well. Important to note that I, like many, have private insurance through my work. Many Canadians also have the option of insurance coverage, but we have a baseline level of care accessible to everyone regardless of situation.

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You can’t have your cake and eat it to.
(this was not directed at anyone in particular.)

What nonsense. Here in Australia I had a non-urgent MRI after a 2 week wait. My friend with cancer had an urgent MRI after a wait of 1 or 2 days. Without any Australian Government subsidy we pay about 1/8 the price you in the US pay for Lantus. I.e we have negotiated robustly with US pharma to obtain a low price. Visiting Americans could buy Lantus for this price and the savings would cover the cost of their air fares.

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"What nonsense." Is it fun being unnecessarily rude??
All these anectodal stories yet if I had no life, I could drudge up endless stories of how people die waiting for procedures or critical tests. Like I said before, I’m glad you all are happy with your countries’ medical services. I heard all your comments, now can we give it a rest? It’s now very boring, and unnecessary now that you all have weighed in.

I would have left Cuba out of that list. Cuba may provide good healthcare to tourists and the villains that run the country, but for citizens it certainly isn’t ‘excellent’.

If you guys didn’t see 60 minutes tonight, it should be on the internet tomorrow…very relevant. See S51 E30

Cuba is the only country of the five I mentioned that I have not lived in or visited myself. I had included Cuba partly based on Michael Moore’s thought provoking film Sicko! and partly based on what a friend experienced after he was injured in a bar brawl in Havana and taken to a Cuban hospital for treatment, which he described as excellent.

I really never understood that saying. How can you eat a piece of cake if you can’t first have it? Maybe it means that once eaten it’s gone which makes no more sense to me.

You cannot both have it (and keep it,) and eat it. You can only do one or the other.
Can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Kind of like the saying, “Quick, cheap and good. Pick two.”

Michael Moore should have known better. He fell for propaganda from an authoritarian regime. That only weakens his case for a different health care system. Germany and Norway are fine examples of different well-functioning systems, Cuba definitely isn’t.

https://academic.oup.com/heapol/article/33/6/755/5035051

https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/02/10/inenglish/1486729823_171276.html

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jan/31/tom-harkin/sen-tom-harkin-says-cuba-has-lower-child-mortality/