I get the feel that people will move en masse over to FUD. The actual membership in this online community changes over time, but it can only be made better by more diabetics. It might be a good thing overall because we get all our FUD friends back…some of whom I really miss.
That was me! And thanks to all of you who have given me help, and understood where I’m coming from, since 2017. When I got my first pump, I came here for information, and joined up soon afterwards.
I have been on this forum for some years now and I see absolutely no reason to switch to separate forums for Type 1 and Type 2. I am a Type 1 (for over 60 years) and I often see useful information from people with Type 2 as well as those with Type 1. Yes, there may be many more Type 1s with hints and tips about insulin and pumps but the Type 2s seem to provide more suggestions regarding diet and exercise and even monitoring. I find the input from ALL to be worthwhile. Maybe if enough of us expressed our desire to keep it the way it is, something can be done?
So when archive.org spyders tudiabetes.org it doesn’t spyder the forum and when it spyders hosted-by-discourse.com it finds nothing (that name is hosted by Amazon and it doesn’t even have an address, let alone a web service!)
I checked a couple of my older topics (including the one from 2023) and they have not been spydered, at least under the required name (i.e. the one starting forum.tudiabetes.org, not the CNAME value), however some topics have.
If archive.org can spyder the whole of forum.tudiabetes.org then there will be a publicly available archive. The alternative of a local archive is probably not worth the effort; so far as I can see it can’t be published, even in the original form, without violating copyright and probably GDPR.
@Stemwinder_Gary it might be a good idea to lock that thread. As an inveterate archivist it so precisely sums up everything that is happening now as well as being, to my mind, a perfect summary of a set of aims that were achieved and just worked for 11 years.
It’s a piece of history and a very important piece at this moment. It deserves to be read start as it was in April and May of 2014.
Not sure we can do that. Moderator privileges were shut off a while back without warning, and when I inquired was when I found out the organization was going to mothball the site and that was part of the process.
Thanks for the reply. I caused the page I quoted to be archived:
Do you know what form the “mothballing” will take? If it’s going to be frozen as a static web site that’s almost as good as archive.org spydering the whole forum and better than archiving individual topics. If it’s going to be stored in a dusty draw with some naphthalene balls not so
My status as a lowly moderator didn’t accord me any direct contact with the organizational overlords, so I can only speculate. One factoid is that they seem to have stopped paying the Discourse subscription at the turn of this past year—a message to that effect started appearing in the Admin dashboard when I still had access—but here we still are, so Discourse seem to be exercising some kind of forbearance. Or benign neglect. Disabling Moderator accounts (mine anyway) indicates some kind of attention being paid. My guess is they did that because Mila, the main admin/overseer, was moved on to other responsibilities and it made sense to turn off privileges downstream from her. There’s also tudiabetes.org itself and what the plan is for all that. Dunno to what extent the original organization exists beyond the domain name. I’d guess they’ll just repoint everything to the new site eventually, dunno. My experience as a web guy in the .org space says attention resources are limited and stuff like this can linger at the bottom of the priority list for a long time.
I’ve looked into it and came to the conclusion the easiest way to keep the forum going would be to have another diabetes non-profit take over and emailed a few. My Plan F is what you suggest, a group of us self funding the forum. At a estimated $1500/year I thought it was possible, I’m less sure now that we know there are outstanding obligations.
@mila I just engaged GoDaddy, where you are registered ATM, to buy this domain.
@everyoneelse; if I succeed I agree to transfer it to @michel free of charge.
I’m not paying the maximum or the minimum I quoted to GoDaddy (I didn’t specify either, so I assume the minimum is $0 and the maximum is equivalent to the current symbol on FUD’s favicon
This is the considerably restated contract I received from GoDaddy.
@mila I draw your, and everyone at @BeyondType1 and @BeyondType2 to this response. I am not acting falsely in this regard; I engaged with @GoDaddy in a reasonable way to acquire “tudiabetes.org”, your own supplier (someone providing you with a service for which you are paying), to negotiate a reasonable price for your domain name, which you own.
I received this response. The following is quoted verbatim and without reformatting (I don’t want to be the victim of a slamsuit), so copy’n’paste it to somewhere where it can be read.
Hi John,
Welcome to the GoDaddy Domain Broker Service - my name is Jake Shipp and I'm here to help you successfully negotiate the domain name, TUDIABETES.ORG, at the best price.
The GoDaddy Domain Broker Service is a "white glove" service where we will do everything necessary from start to finish, so that at the end of this process, TUDIABETES.ORG may be acquired safely and securely in your GoDaddy account.
The way the service works is that we reach out to the owner of the domain name with varying offer amounts and through multiple channels, trying to compel them to enter into a negotiation. We have found that we are more than 3 times as likely to generate a response of the owner if we present them with a fair and reasonable offer, as opposed to simply asking whether the domain is for sale and at what price.
ACTION REQUIRED:
Can you please reply back to this message with your budget so that I can get started?
Here is my personal recommendation to successfully acquire TUDIABETES.ORG:
$500.00 USD - $1500.00 USD
The "starting offer" is what I will use to begin the outreach. It is what I believe would be a reasonable starting point to begin the negotiations for this particular domain name. The "max offer" is what you would be comfortable offering if we don't get a response to our initial offer. When selecting the budget, please understand that our chances of getting a response are based almost entirely on the offers that we extend.
If you have any questions or would like help figuring out the budget, please reply to this email or give me a call at (...) ...-.... and we can discuss strategy together. Please review this information and get back to me so that we can begin the negotiations.
Ignoring the creepy “white glove” term this is the way things work, although paying the dude to send me a machine generated email irks.
I believe you need to deal with this (speaking to @mila) yesterday. Do not transfer the domain to me, I’m a total dipshit; transfer it to @michel or someone responsible in @FUD.
It might be a good thing overall because we get all our FUD friends back…some of whom I really miss.
and it doesn’t even have an address, let alone a web service!)
