I do not think the Eversense is significantly cheaper than the Dexcom.
Not talking about the limited time offer going on which was described above but the regular cost.
My understanding is the cost per day of the Eversense will be very similar to the Dexcom G6. The Libre will continue to be priced (cost per day) lower than both Eversense and Dexcom.
ah, my point wasā¦drum rollā¦that medicare pays for the things I mentioned. if they donāt pay for Medtronic sensors, or they donāt pay for Eversense, that means a LOT OF PATIENTS, NAMELY MEDICARE PATIENTS do not get an Eversense cheaper than using the items that Medicare has decided to cover. Itās not all about me. sigh. I was just illustrating a point.
44 million people are enrolled in Medicare.
I looked up their website. It seems a nice alternative to Dexcom and their constant supply issues right now, much less the issues I have with it. But I really worry about scar tissue and how my body would react to another foreign object in me.
So you move sites every three months or they just pull the old one out & insert a new one in the same spot?
Tangentially related rant: whyyyyyy canāt they get sensors shipped out in a reasonable amount of time?? I was told a complimentary one was coming my way on Thursday and it still hasnāt shipped! And every. single. time that I call them WITHOUT FAIL its a different story with my account. This past time they said my shipment was delayed because there was a duplicate order and they had to cancel one. WHAT. Seriously? I can see how the duplicate order would get caught & delayed (insurance not wanting to cover a secord order so soon after one) but why would that delay both? Thatās just the most recent example. If I call tomorrow, Iām sure Iād get another story. Iām actually considering getting my doctor to give me the contact for their rep and seeing if they can get me any more clear information on my account.
Sidenote - do you always have to wear the Libre on your arm?
Iām planning on using the same incision upon removal and replacement and am not concerned with scar tissue, as I currently have scars on my arms from the libre, scars on my thighs from the Dexcom, and lots of mosquito bite scarsā¦the libre is only approved for the arm, however I wore it on my thigh and it seemed to have OK, but delayed resultsā¦ donāt even consider the libre unless you are not in the us, the 14 day sensors wonāt work with any NFC to Bluetooth add ons(ambrosia blucon, miao miao, etc) so its really only for type 2 diabetics who are not on insulin and do not suffer from hypoglycemic unawareness, at least until the libre2 comes to the us, which has Bluetooth built in. Iām also willing to trade a little scar tissue for the chance to remove the transmitter during surfing and scuba diving, etc. With the eversense, they numb your arm, and the Dr uses a device that clicks when it is in, and I felt absolutely no painā¦except the lidocaine shots, but Iām used to shots. Iām happy to answer any other questionsā¦ Iām currently using xdrip with the eversense as I prefer the customizable alarms and predictions for carbs and insulin and the watch optionā¦had to set up the night scout account, but it wasnāt too bad, just intimidatingā¦
Iām also getting far fewer compression lows with the G6. I think it has a lot to do with the lower profile.
Well i canāt figure out xdrip to save my life so oh well. Iām just frustrated with ALL my options right now. I really want my U-200 humalog back but havenāt been able to afford it. And yes, I have insurance.
Are you trying to use it with the g6?, and downloaded the apk and set up to do nightly alpha downloads?.. Iām pretty sure with the g6 you can pair the Bluetooth directly, but youād be using xdrip algorithms and may need to calibrateā¦ I always use xdrip, but the nightscout setup was intimidatingā¦ probably best to print out the instructions 1st. I can try to help with xdrip, or there are tutorials, but I know its not on the play store, have to download the APk, then update, and choose g5/G6 as your collector, then pair the Bluetooth on xdrip
Bluetooth is under less common settings
I believe they are trying to compete, but are really focusing on a 1 year sensor which makes sense as their transmitter lasts a year. I signed a waiver stating the Dr will try to have the surgeries paid by the insurance companies, however, worse case scenario for insertion and removal if they great benefit them is $250ā¦someone in fudiabetes paid $220, so that does not scare me. The Dexcom costs are scary though, especially with all of the high deductible plans out there, expensive sensors, overpriced 3 month transmitters with 3 month timers included, probably some phillipino engineers trying to stop the sensor restarts, etc. Plus I recently went through a united healthcare prior authorization waste of time because they told me although the Dexcom was covered last year, your corporation chose a different healthcare plan which does not cover it, please feel free to call them. Even with 3 month sensors at full retail eversense is cheaper with the 4 surgeries included and you can take it off to surf or scuba dive if you want.
The clinical trial they (Senseonics) have going on now is for the 180-day Eversense XL version.
I would not be holding my breath on the one year version. Not saying they may or may not get there but right now it is the 180-day that is āon deckā.
The Senseonics cost is expected to be extremely similar to the G6 Dexcom cost.
Now how one does or does not get that cost covered is a different part of the equation but the underlying cost per day of the two systems is expected to be very similar.
Ignoring short term deals like the Dexcom Costco deal and the Senseonics Bridge offering.
For what itās worth, I donāt have compression lows frequently with the G6 by any means. I might have had 2 or 3 in the 7 months Iāve been using G6. Itās just that with the G4 & G5 I never, as far as I noticed, had one.
My overall experience with the G6 has been positive.
It is possible you are comparing 90 days of Dexcom vs 365 days of Eversense.
Also the cost shown for Dexcom is slightly high. That is not the cost.
In any event, I look forward to hearing more of your personal experiences with the current device you are wearing and your thoughts on its performance.
The transmitter and one 90 day sensor comes in the 1st 1400 bundle, the transmitter is rechargeable and lasts one year and powers the sensor. Additional sensors are 600 each because it is only the sensor and the implantation device, nothing else is needed because all the stickers come in the combo kit. I did a lot of research prior to agreeing, and if you add up 350 per month for the Dexcom g6 sensors, 4200, 2 475 transmitter 2 packs because each transmitter lasts 3 months, 900 so 5100, didnāt realize the transmitters were 2 packs, but 3200 is still obviously better
I donāt have any special deals with Dex but I can get cash price from Dex for $100 per G6 sensor and $200 per G6 transmitter.
Anywayā¦
I will be happy to hear how your experiences with Eversense go. I expect it will be very interesting and great to hear your thoughts on the performance.
Ok. Iāve been waiting for the G6. I thought the hype was it did need calibration. And what is this soaking thing.
Sounds similar to the $99 bridge program which was why I included the screenshots, anyway, with the implant surgeries at 250 each. 4200 vs 5100 cash without incentives, but I still think eversense is greatā¦for some reason, I had the most difficult time keeping the sensors on in the winter using skin tac, mastisol, torbot latex, etc plus I always had scars from the sensors especially if I extended past the 7 or 10 days. The nightscout setup and xdrip integration was tough, but definitely a positive experience so far.
No.
Apologies for not communicating more clearly in my posts.
It will depend on the frequency that the radio uses. I believe Bluetooth uses 2.4 gHz. If the Medtronic CGM uses the same or similar frequency, it will be subject to compression lows. In general, the lower the frequency, the less problem there would be with compression lows.
On the other hand, my understanding of the compression low phenomenon is that it isnāt a problem with Bluetooth (or other radio) but rather that when you lay on the sensor, you squeeze the interstitial fluid out from around the sensor, making it think that BG is lower.
BINGO.
