A man I don't know dodged a diabetes bullet

I had a call the other night from Hank, a friend of my husband’s. “Elizabeth,” he said, “I’m at Kevin’s, and he’s in trouble, and I don’t know what to do.”


Kevin is a friend of Hank's, a guy I've never met. Middle aged recovering alcoholic with both T1D and Parkinson's disease. I'm familiar with all three at this stage in my life -- I have plentiful relatives who are either active or recovering drunks, my dad died of complications of Parkinson's, and of course, T1D is a constant companion in my household. So while I've never met Kevin, I sure enough feel for him. Any one of those burdens is tough to bear -- all three at once is just crazy difficult. AND he lives alone, with just his dog for company. And that's how he and Hank got to know one another -- they walk their dogs together, two middle-aged guys with chronic health issues (Hank's got a seriously awful back problem). They look out for one another, to the point where Hank carries glucose tabs in his pocket during their dog walks because once too often, Kevin has forgotten to bring them and has had a low after a particularly strenuous walk.

So on this particular day, Hank swung by Kevin's place because he had "a feeling" that something wasn't right. He hadn't talked to Kevin that day, and there had been nothing he could pinpoint that was wrong when they walked their dogs that morning. But he had this feeling, and so he went.

He found Kevin on the couch, dozing, looking pale and strange. Tried to roust him but couldn't get a coherent word out of him. That's when he called Mark (who wasn't home) and got me.

I asked him if he knew Kevin's blood sugar level, and he said no -- he'd looked for Kevin's meter but the meter was a new one that he didn't know how to use. It was a One-Touch meter, though, same as the one Eric uses, so I talked him through the process of putting the strip into the slot the right way and waiting for it to light up. Then he had to get some blood -- couldn't manage to get the finger stick on Kevin's finger because Kevin was thrashing around so much, and eventually he simply poked him with a knife. But the meter didn't give a reading, and we couldn't figure out why... and time was ticking. "Hank," I said, "If you don't know his blood sugar, you can't determine whether he needs sugar or insulin. Do you know anything about his highs and lows?"

"I know he tends to drop like a stone in the evenings," Hank replied.

"Then it's probably best to assume this is a low and get some sugar in him. But call 9-1-1 first, because you don't know how much insulin is in his system and a glucose tab might not be enough. And if we're wrong, and he's sky-high, he's going to have to go to the hospital anyway to get insulin, because you can't calculate his dose for him at this point."

Armed with that information, Hank rang off to go care for Kevin. About 15 minutes later, Mark came home, and I told him what was happening. He called Hank's cell, got him on the line... the ambulance was there, and the medics had gotten a blood glucose reading of... gulp... 17. And this was AFTER Hank had managed to get a glucose tab into Kevin's mouth. The thrashing around had been seizure.

Turns out, Kevin had taken his bolus of insulin prior to eating, and because he's been having trouble sleeping (common, with Parkinson's), he'd taken a sleep aid at the same time. He had fallen asleep without having his meal. All that insulin and no food -- it would've killed him. Hank's premonition and presence had saved Kevin's life.

I don't know Kevin at all. It doesn't sound to me like he has very good control of his diabetes because I'm always hearing about his lows and highs. Understandable that that's the case, though, because lord knows, it's enough of a drag dealing with the diabetes, and this man has two other nasty chronic illnesses on his back, either one of which could kill him just as easily. I've even found myself wondering whether a part of him wanted to just go to sleep and never wake up -- diabetes is exhausting, Parkinson's is torture, and being in recovery from alcohol addiction is no picnic, either.

But I'm glad he's still alive.

So he really needs to bolus after his meals. Seems a lot safer. And yeah, maybe part of him is just tired of battling with the Big D. He’s lucky Hank was there to help him.

Wow… I have to say, Kevin really has a guardian angel in Hank. Amazing story.

Scary story… I always make sure to know that those I work/travel/live with know to call 911 if I’m not responsive or just unable to respond…

That is a hard lesson and Hank did one hell of a job

Hugs to Hank & to you–what a story!

Hank and I are going to spend some quality time with a One-Touch Meter soon… And I’m going to make a present of a glucagon shot to Kevin (who had never heard that they existed and didn’t have one!!). Might also give him “Type 1 Diabetes for Dummies” too…

You’re a good person, Elizabeth.

Wow you were amazing at handling that whole issue but then again us who either have d or live with one who has it are very well informed. he is lucky to have had some one check in on him and for some one to call you and 911 because like my doc always tells me a high kills you over the course of time a low can kill you immed. way to go!!

Great support you have given. I just wanted to add that under NO circumstances Insulin should be given to a person that is irresponsive. Call 911 and give glucose tabs but only if there is no risk that the person might choke the tab. If he is already high and has another health problem (stroke etc) the glucose tabs will not change his siutation to the negative. It does not matter much if he is at 500 and goes to 600 for example. But it does matter to go from 20 to 120 quickly.

Something the parametic told my husband one time after a I had a low seizing (as for his other problems I haven’t had) if the person can’t swollow put something like cake icing in her mouth the mouth will asorbe it up into her system and that will keep her from chocking on anything. Don’t know if that helped but just thought I would pass it on. I’ve been at 19 before b/c I fall sooooooo fast. Remember that the next time you need it.

Cake frosting - didn’t think of it at the time, but I’m not sure Hank would’ve had any anyway. But I’ll tell him to stock it :slight_smile:

You are a rock star! You’re good folk to have around. The poor guy’s sugar was so low the meter would have only read “LO” – you and Hank are good guardian angels.

I didn’t think of it either but it is mostly made out of sugar and it does melt in your mouth soooo sounds like a good idea. Since then I have a tube of cake icing in every room of the house just for times I can’t get anywhere. I have the gluagon shot here but it has helped just to have that around a few times. Tell Hank to keep it around!

@SF Pete, yeah, we figured out later that that’s why he couldn’t get a reading on the meter. I hadn’t known it was POSSIBLE to go that low and still be alive. Yikes. But Somebody was definitely looking out for Kevin that day… Hank can’t explain why it was he felt the urge to go check up on his buddy, so I’m putting it down to a guardian spirit and leaving it at that.

@Doris, Hank is definitely going to be informed about the frosting option. It’s a lot better than glucose tabs when it comes right down to it.

I keep cake icing around instead of glucose tab b/c it seems to do better for me than tab.

It’s possible to get lower then 17 because I did years ago…I went down to 10. I don’t know at what point you seize but at 10 I did have a seizure.

Your so lucky at about 21 I start to twitch when I fall one more point I start the seizing.

Great response! I guess you have to be so calm and in control of the situation to actually guide someone on how to treat his friend with that amazing hypo seizure, over the phone! Everyone should have friends that care, like you.

You should have advised Hank to call 911 immediately instead of trying to play doctor! I’m appalled that it took so long for you to tell Hank to call 911.

I understand why your friend called you - an ambulance ride is expensive for those on fixed incomes, and he knew the lows were an ongoing issue. I was told by a friend in emt training that any BG reading below 60 is an ambulance ride if the person is not consious. 1/2 of a regular soda will do the trick if the person is awake enough to swallow, no need to rattle around looking for tabs or tubes. Kevin should also have an emergency glucagon kit in plain sight just in case he is not able to swallow anything. My heart also goes out to those with multiple illnesses, managing D is a cake walk compaired to a triple threat like Kevin faces. You guys did a great job - sounds like Hank is a wonderful friend.