CVS and blood glucose test supplies

Perhaps I did not go into enough detail. Last year I was advised by CVSCaremark and Walgreens that my Medicare Advantage Plan would not cover Contour Next strips without an advance authorization from my doctor. Once the authorization was received I was able to get them for free. Perhaps, Medicare Advantage goes by different rules.

The primary point of my post was to point out that Walgreens couldn’t figure out a way to supply free Contour Next strips despite the fact I instructed them to submit my prescription under Medicare part B instead of under my drug prescription plan.

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My take is that since CVS is one of the big Pharmacy Benefit Mgt companies (PBM’s) they aren’t at all; looking out for you. Just like (finally) big pharma is getting investigated by Congress, the PBM’s are next in line

I don’t think any of these “people” are looking out for us. They don’t care about the stress, inconvenience or added cost to us. Perhaps they think that if we can’t get the full amount of items our doctor prescribes, we’ll buy the items in their stores. (Nope! Amazon sells test strips, too.) Medicare needs some HUGE reform/updating—my pharmacist said the claims for Medicare are submitted on paper–and the reimbursement from Medicare is extremely minimal and slow (think how long it takes to get your EOB from Medicare for these items). Seems CVS is taking out its frustration with Medicare on us!!

Try not to buy test strips using your Medicare drug plan as the cost goes toward the Donut Hole. When I first started on Medicare, the strips were being run through my Part B plan/supplement and I paid 20%----then a pharmacist realized what was happening and helped me to get things processed as a Medicare Part B claim. (I don’t have an advantage plan, so can’t address how that would work.)

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I am so confused, reading this section for second time (dyslexia lives). Anyway, just got back from picking up my insulin and strips from CVS. Due to having a pump, Medicare has been covering insulin and strips. I got the usual three month supply of insulin but the strips were for only one month. The prescription label says “Test 8 times daily, max is 3 times a day per insurance”)My prescription used to say to test 8-10 times a day.) It also says that this is three month supply. The CVS person said that insurance companies have changed the way the give out strips. As I now have a Dexcom G6, I don’t need to test as much. But who the h---- gave insurance companies the right to contradict the doctors prescription order???

Pharmacists seem to routinely either be ignorant of Part B coverage or they don’t want to process Rx’s using it. I had to fight for months with Safeway to get refunds totalling over $300 for overcharges for my (and my wife’s) strips that they didn’t initially process correctly. Rather than decline getting the strips, I reluctantly paid what they asked and then proceeded to gather info from my insurance to refute the charges. Safeway was reluctant to refund me my money but in the end they did. Then we parted ways. :slight_smile:

Just last week I refilled my 90-day Tresiba rx. The pharmacy I use, Fairview, University of Minnesota, broke open the box of pens and sent me two of the pens repackaged in black plastic. I spoke with them because two pens will cover just over two months, if things go well. They explained that they calculated how much insulin I use and the two pens should cover 75 days. They couldn’t send a third pen because I would receive more insulin then my 90-day rx. Apparently they’ve been audited and had to “pay back” money on over-filling prescriptions so this is their new policy. Pretty scary policy. I can’t call in the refill until 65 days. If there is a delay, and there always is, I will be without insulin. Then there’s the fact that I was told by my diabetes educator to throw away a pen after 30 days.

My insurance won’t cover the short-acting insulin I use. Now my pharmacy won’t give me enough long-acting insulin to stay in the safe zone.

I did get the correct number of strips and lancets.

Lauri: I encountered this with both Fairview and CVS Mail Order. Fairview also sent me a loose pen. I was very concerned about that—there’s no tamper proof seal on pens! I was getting Toujeo from them & contacted the manufacturer, who said it was okay to split boxes. Just sounds unsafe to me. I have the same issue with getting enough pens to cover 90 days. My dosage can change at times plus the pharmacy was not including insulin to test the needles. My diabetes educator said to tell them I take about 5 units more than I do, so now I get enough insulin to cover 90 days. Talk with your diabetes educator again. She may be able to help work through your supply issue in the way mine did. Also ask if there’s a different short acting insulin that’d work for you AND that’s covered by your insurance. There are discount cards out there, but I have no idea how to obtain them or how/if they actually work (maybe ask a retail pharmacist). It is scary to have to run so low on insulin. Also ask your diabetes educator if she has any free vials or insulin pens to give you. Good luck!

The pharmacies get the snot audited out of them by Medicare. It is extreme and excessive.

Medicare allows three times a day if you are on insulin and one time a day if you are not on insulin. (Four times a day if you are on an insulin pump which may not be stated in the “test strip rules”; but Medicare WILL NOT pay for an insulin pump and/or supplies unless you are testing exactly four times a day).

. In 2011, Medicare did some sort of study and discovered it had allowed 6 million dollars in claims to be paid out “inappropriately”. There were three types of errors: 1) They paid for test strips when patient through the retail pharmacy when the patient was in the hospital. 2) They paid for test strips through retail pharmacy when patient was in a skilled nursing facility. 3) They paid for test strips for people who are “without documented diagnosis code for diabetes.”

(Ironically, one of the top five diagnoses used for #3 was insulin use. Can’t think of many- if any- reasons for someone to be on insulin without diabetes so that one is kind funny)

So now Medicare audits the pharmacies to death. in the beginning it wasn’t too bad however the strangle hold they have on glucose testing supplies is getting tighter and tighter each year.

On paper their requirements aren’t too bad, in practice though, they are insane. The prescription must contain the following elements:
 That they have diabetes
 What kind of blood glucose monitor they need and why they need it (that is, if they
need a special monitor because of vision problems, their doctor must explain that.)
 Whether they use insulin
 How often they should test their blood glucose

That isn’t too much to ask however, here’s the “extras” they also “require”:

  1. You cannot use a range for test supplies (such as 4-5 times a day). It must be an exact number.

  2. It must be a “wet” signature so if it is sent electronically and the pharmacy doesn’t receive with a copy of the “actual signature” but an electronic version then it must be done again with a “wet signature”. (To my knowledge this is not the case with anything else.)

  3. You must write the diagnosis code (ICD10) for the diabetes not the words “Type 1” or “Type 2” but you cannot use the diagnosis code for insulin (you have to physically write “on insulin or not on insulin”) (This one is a 50/50, depends on the auditor).

  4. If you have to fill out a prescription “form” there can be ABSOLUTELY no errors, cross offs, hesitations, “write over”, white out, etc. Doesn’t matter if the provider signs the errors and dates them. You do any of that and you have to start over. (It didn’t used to be this way but it kept getting stricter and stricter and stricter.

If the testing exceeds Medicare’s allotment then “officially” what is needed is:

  1. Basic coverage criteria for all home glucose monitors and related accessories and supplies are met; and, (That they are diabetic and are trained to use the glucose meter)

  2. Within the six (6) months prior to ordering quantities of strips and lancets that exceed the utilization guidelines, the treating practitioner has had an in-person visit with the beneficiary to evaluate their diabetes control and their need for the specific quantity of supplies that exceeds the usual utilization amounts described above; and,

  3. Every six (6) months, for continued dispensing of quantities of testing supplies that exceed the usual utilization amounts, the treating practitioner must verify adherence to the high utilization testing regimen.

TYPES of things that may be in the actual documentation:

Names, dosages, and timing of administration of medications used to treat the diabetes;
o Frequency and severity of symptoms related to hyperglycemia and/or hypoglycemia;
o Review of beneficiary-maintained log of glucose testing values;
o Changes in the patient’s treatment regimen as a result of glucose testing results review;
o Dosage adjustments that the patient should make on their own based on selftesting results;
o Laboratory tests indicating level of glycemic control (e.g., hemoglobin A1C);
o Other therapeutic interventions and results.
REALITY

  1. Listed on the chart note under medications must be the test strips and lancets with all the information like it was a prescription.
  2. It should also be in the discussion section.
  3. Be sure to use the “most present tense” language such as “is currently testing” not just “is”
  4. Thirty days of glucose logs. (It says you have to have documentation that you reviewed the logs…Uh, no. Physical logs are a must.
  5. You must state justification in EVERY SINGLE NOTE even if it hasn’t changed. Such as “Patient has been testing and is currently continuing to test their blood sugars six times a day. Patient doses their insulin on a sliding scale and checks their blood sugars before each meal and then two hours after each meal to monitor insulin dosing.”

As a patient, if your prescription says you are testing four times a day. Then you’d better be testing exactly FOUR times a day. Not three. Not five. Heaven forbid, one day you test more frequently or one day you test less frequently. Oh, and there is no such things as “dud” strips (Being sarcastic). Oh, I’m sure that you never ever have to test your blood sugars again if you see they are low and treat them. If your blood sugar is 40 and you “treat” it, I guess you can just assume that everything is perfect after that. (Again, sarcasm) And NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, EVER share your test strips with your spouse (even if the are also diabetic and have their own prescription for test strips) because that is a MASSIVE mess.

CVS is probably tired of getting their money taken back by Medicare when technically the documentation most likely fits the WRITTEN requirements.

It is a sticky issue because technically, Medicare DOES allow more than three times a day for those on insulin (or one time for those on orals), doctors just have to justify it.

CVS Caremark job is to fulfill the provider’s order regardless of what it is and, since Medicare DOES allow it with documentation is not CVS Caremark place to be making those decisions.

That being said, has gotten so above and beyond ANAL about it, the pharmacies are losing large amounts of money on legitimate claims.

When this all began it was simply to insure that test strips were only being obtained in accordance with Medicare guidelines. That has ceased to be the motive and now it is about how many trumped up circumstances can the auditors to take money away.

The people to be complaining to is Medicare for making it so challenging that pharmacies don’t what to work with Medicare beneficiaries.

Lauri:
I don’t know if you have Medicare or a commercial insurer. There should be ways around that. I would contact your insurance plan tell them that you are on insulin pens and ask them if there is something the pharmacy can do to get you your extra pen. Explain to them that you are on Tresiba, which is a prefilled insulin pen. Tell them that three pens would last you a little over a hundred days. Since the insulin is already filled in the pen device it isn’t like the pharmacy can just pour a little out so don’t exceed the 90 days. Ask them if there is some sort of override that the pharmacy can do to get you what you need for 90 days. There should be something in the contract language that allows you to do so (I won’t say definite but likely). Think of it this way, if you if you were given a prescription for an inhaler and 1 inhaler would last 105 days what is the pharmacy going to do? They’d have to get some sort of override because there is no way to give less of one inhaler (it’s not like tablets or capsules). (Hopefully, you understand what I’m trying to say).

I will say, at least were I live, you will find few pharmacies that will split up a box of insulin pens. It’s not that they legally can’t it’s just most pharmacies don’t have the storage space to keep loose insulin pens floating around the pharmacy (since you need fridge space).

Another possibility that may help a smidgen is have your provider write that you use UP TO “X” amount of units and overshoot it by about 5 units. It is critical that they use the phrase “up to.” To say you are taking 25 units when in fact you are only taking 20 units (and they know that) is insurance fraud. Other thing I have found helpful is to include the priming calculation with the directions: Inject 20 units subcutaneously at bedtime, using an additional two units each time to prime the pen.

After receiving special approval from my Endo for 5 strips/day (150/month) for my Contour Next strips, RiteAid just provided a thirty day supply of 200 strips for free under Medicare Part B.

I wonder if they will give me 100 or 200 strips next month.

awesome, Don. It boggles my mind to think of all the years I tested in excess of 20x a day, then got it down to an average of around 17, for many more years. Then I got a G5 and the average is around 5 per day or so. My fingers don’t have as many black dots on the fingertips any more.

“rcaril: Omg. I spoke with 3 different people in my CVS pharmacy, the last one being the pharmacist who explained CVS’ new corporate policy of adhering to the rule of 2 strips/day for T2D or 3 strips/day for T1D. This policy started Jan 29, 2019. Medicare DOES allow more, but CVS’ new policy is not to process those prescriptions. (I was getting more than 300/90 days, too; my current prescription amount exceeds the 300). “My” pharmacist is very knowledgeable & extremely helpful (she’s the one who got me set up to order test strips using Medicare instead of my supplement). Apparently CVS’ software won’t allow pharmacy staff to process a prescription for more than 200/300 for 90 days now even if your Rx is written for a higher amount. (Let me know if you’re able to get a larger amount on your next fill at CVS!) I’m pharmacy shopping in the interim. This is insane!”

I think this is no longer the policy. I was able to get my RX Test strips filled for 6 box ( 2 box a month) for 90 day at the the standard coinsurance I pay for each box.
Must have been a lot of blow-back on that policy. Not on Medicare

I buy my own preferred truemetrix strips for $42/300 on amazon. The freedom of answering to nobody at least for test strips is incredibly satisfying.

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