LMAO. was going to say the same thing. sorry Seema seems the kids here can’t play nice when they talk about healthcare so similar threads recently were frozen or pulled
I’m cautiously optimistic about it. I’m encouraged by the steps it takes, especially for those with pre-existing conditions. But, I think one big difference to remember is that with the current bill, there is not a lot of actual “health care” reform in it, but more just insurance regulation. So, while it will affect my ability to buy insurance, there will not be a national health service or anything like that.
Sorry to disappoint you, but no government health care here. Just some sane rules holding the private insurance companies to ethical standards. But you wouldn’t know it if you listened to the conservatives in this country…if you want more information, just go to this site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/healthreform
I’m so confused…do I count you as someone not happy with the reform that was passed or is it that you are unhappy about how discussions tend to go on this forum? Or is it both?
It is both.
I am not happy with the "reform"
I am not happy with our political leaders and the manner in which they “passed” the reform
I am not happy there cannot be civil discussions about it, not just here…but in most places OLC’s or real ones.
I think there is a group, that is more moderated, where you can read discussions, and learn people’s reactions more on the subject… I haven’t visited, but it probably has more in depth info than one of the forum threads.
Below is page 114 of H.R.3590.pp that passed the House and Senate. I don’t see what you are talking about.
(i) the employer did not provide minimum essential coverage; or
(ii) the employer provided such minimum essential
coverage but it was determined under section
36B(c)(2)(C) of such Code to either be unaffordable
to the employee or not provide the required minimum
actuarial value; and
(3) the Secretary of the Treasury makes advance payments
of such credit or reductions to the issuers of the qualified
health plans in order to reduce the premiums payable by
individuals eligible for such credit.
(b) ADVANCE DETERMINATIONS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall provide under the
program established under subsection (a) that advance determination
of eligibility with respect to any individual shall be
made—
(A) during the annual open enrollment period
applicable to the individual (or such other enrollment
period as may be specified by the Secretary); and
(B) on the basis of the individual’s household income
for the most recent taxable year for which the Secretary,
after consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, determines
information is available.
(2) CHANGES IN CIRCUMSTANCES.—The Secretary shall provide
procedures for making advance determinations on the
basis of information other than that described in paragraph
(1)(B) in cases where information included with an application
form demonstrates substantial changes in income, changes in
family size or other household circumstances, change in filing
status, the filing of an application for unemployment benefits,
or other significant changes affecting eligibility, including—
(A) allowing an individual claiming a decrease of 20
percent or more in income, or filing an application for
unemployment benefits, to have eligibility for the credit
determined on the basis of household income for a later
period or on the basis of the individual’s estimate of such
income for the taxable year; and
(B) the determination of household income in cases
where the taxpayer was not required to file a return of
tax imposed by this chapter for the second preceding taxable
year.
(c) PAYMENT OF PREMIUM TAX CREDITS AND COST-SHARING
REDUCTIONS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall notify the Secretary
of the Treasury and the Exchange through which the individual
is enrolling of the advance determination under section 1411.
(2) PREMIUM TAX CREDIT.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary of the Treasury shall
make the advance payment under this section of any premium
tax credit allowed under section 36B of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 to the issuer of a qualified health
plan on a monthly basis (or such other periodic basis as
the Secretary may provide).
(B) ISSUER RESPONSIBILITIES.—An issuer of a qualified
health plan receiving an advance payment with respect
to an individual enrolled in the plan shall—
Instead of vague “I don’t like this bill” or “What about page xxx line xx” kind of posts, why don’t people post more specific concerns? Otherwise, it looks like a re-hashing of talking points gleaned from Fox “News”.
I will have to go thru it as i have it highlighted there is so much there and i do not want to get this thread thrown out like the others but i know it is there
Like I said we are better off taking all the money from private insurance, medicare and medicade throw it into a pot and let it be first come first serve no matter who it is.