Government Health Care - in the United States

Hi everyone!!!!

I am curious what diabetics in America think of a new health care program being passed for the USA?

The news has shown much mixed reactions. We have had health care in Canada for so long, I could not imagine life without it.

Everyone is welcome to share their thoughts - I am very interested.

Seema D

LMAO. was going to say the same thing. sorry Seema seems the kids here can’t play nice when they talk about healthcare so similar threads recently were frozen or pulled

I’m cautiously optimistic about it. I’m encouraged by the steps it takes, especially for those with pre-existing conditions. But, I think one big difference to remember is that with the current bill, there is not a lot of actual “health care” reform in it, but more just insurance regulation. So, while it will affect my ability to buy insurance, there will not be a national health service or anything like that.

It seems that on this one people are mixed my state is fighting it.

Sorry to disappoint you, but no government health care here. Just some sane rules holding the private insurance companies to ethical standards. But you wouldn’t know it if you listened to the conservatives in this country…if you want more information, just go to this site:

ditto tom and joe…and I am not a happy camper with it :frowning:

And peoples inabilty to stay civil over true philisophical differences–on BOTH sides

you can disagree and even reamin friends with very different points of view…guess thats why our country/world is in the state its in…

I’m so confused…do I count you as someone not happy with the reform that was passed or is it that you are unhappy about how discussions tend to go on this forum? Or is it both?

It is both.
I am not happy with the "reform"
I am not happy with our political leaders and the manner in which they “passed” the reform
I am not happy there cannot be civil discussions about it, not just here…but in most places OLC’s or real ones.

Heh, so easy to tell that you are a conservative :-).

Yep…for some things–but not for others–they don’t much like me at times either :slight_smile:

I would like to know this “if this plan is so good why are the president and high level govenment people exempt from it?” page 114 line 52

What plan? The public option is not included in the reform bill, if that’s what you’re referring to.

I think there is a group, that is more moderated, where you can read discussions, and learn people’s reactions more on the subject… I haven’t visited, but it probably has more in depth info than one of the forum threads.

Below is page 114 of H.R.3590.pp that passed the House and Senate. I don’t see what you are talking about.

(i) the employer did not provide minimum essential coverage; or (ii) the employer provided such minimum essential coverage but it was determined under section 36B(c)(2)(C) of such Code to either be unaffordable to the employee or not provide the required minimum actuarial value; and (3) the Secretary of the Treasury makes advance payments of such credit or reductions to the issuers of the qualified health plans in order to reduce the premiums payable by individuals eligible for such credit. (b) ADVANCE DETERMINATIONS.— (1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall provide under the program established under subsection (a) that advance determination of eligibility with respect to any individual shall be made— (A) during the annual open enrollment period applicable to the individual (or such other enrollment period as may be specified by the Secretary); and (B) on the basis of the individual’s household income for the most recent taxable year for which the Secretary, after consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, determines information is available. (2) CHANGES IN CIRCUMSTANCES.—The Secretary shall provide procedures for making advance determinations on the basis of information other than that described in paragraph (1)(B) in cases where information included with an application form demonstrates substantial changes in income, changes in family size or other household circumstances, change in filing status, the filing of an application for unemployment benefits, or other significant changes affecting eligibility, including— (A) allowing an individual claiming a decrease of 20 percent or more in income, or filing an application for unemployment benefits, to have eligibility for the credit determined on the basis of household income for a later period or on the basis of the individual’s estimate of such income for the taxable year; and (B) the determination of household income in cases where the taxpayer was not required to file a return of tax imposed by this chapter for the second preceding taxable year. (c) PAYMENT OF PREMIUM TAX CREDITS AND COST-SHARING REDUCTIONS.— (1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall notify the Secretary of the Treasury and the Exchange through which the individual is enrolling of the advance determination under section 1411. (2) PREMIUM TAX CREDIT.— (A) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary of the Treasury shall make the advance payment under this section of any premium tax credit allowed under section 36B of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to the issuer of a qualified health plan on a monthly basis (or such other periodic basis as the Secretary may provide). (B) ISSUER RESPONSIBILITIES.—An issuer of a qualified health plan receiving an advance payment with respect to an individual enrolled in the plan shall—

ok somewhere along the line i got confused

Instead of vague “I don’t like this bill” or “What about page xxx line xx” kind of posts, why don’t people post more specific concerns? Otherwise, it looks like a re-hashing of talking points gleaned from Fox “News”.

I will have to go thru it as i have it highlighted there is so much there and i do not want to get this thread thrown out like the others but i know it is there

I don’t believe you.

Small businesses get tax credits to help them pay for health insurance. Don’t buy into the anti-reform talking points.

Like I said we are better off taking all the money from private insurance, medicare and medicade throw it into a pot and let it be first come first serve no matter who it is.