Raw vegan diet healing T1

Good point Pilcrow. And it’s simple enough - don’t click on the advertised website!

Ditto everyone else on the “healing” – hackles being raised a bit. For future reference, think a more careful word choice would have been better received.

That said, I have friends and relatives who feel much better on a raw vegan or mostly raw vegan diet.

I can’t digest all that cellulose and even sprouted legumes hate me, so I gave up my multi-year attempt at eating a vegan diet years ago.

YDMV, right?

I do feel best (and weigh least) when I make an effort to get lots of steamed low-glycemic veggies (broccoli, collards, turnip greens, zucchini, yellow summer squash, asparagus), a few raw berries and a few raw veggies (e.g. cherry tomatoes, mushrooms, celery diced fine, onions diced fine) in my diet – about nine servings of low-glycemic veggies scattered through the day seems to work best to keep my weight dropping. They’re filling, high in fiber, high in phytochemicals, low in carbs, and provide essential nutrients. When I don’t eat them my weight creeps right back up again. This is the main reason I don’t think I could ever go as low-carb as Dr Bernstein suggests – I gotta have my veggies.

“Compelled to start a religion.” LOL. Great line, Paul.

If you’re hypothyroid, be careful about eating raw cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, peanuts, etc.

Just curious why? I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago because the goiter was so big it was interfering with my swallowing. Of course, I am on thyroid replacement hormone. Do the limitations on those foods still apply?

Vegetables in the cabbage family are goitrogens. So are soy products, peanuts, spinach & others. They are antagonist because they block iodine uptake. Cooking minimizes the compounds responsible. It’s a matter of moderation & eating these foods cooked.



Soy is in so many foods in different forms that it’s hard to avoid. Lecithin is in a lot of prepared foods.



Yes, still applies because you take thyroid supplementation.

Thanks for this, Gerri. I have Hashimoto’s and have an enormous nodule that still needs a biopsy (that’s next month). I’ve had been so diabetes focused that it was only recently that I learned about soy and thyroiditis. It was eye opening because until then I was pretty much a soy junkie. I had no idea about cabbage, spinach, and peanuts – all favorites. Thanks to your post I am off to o more nutritional research about thyroids and these foods. Love the education I can get just following discussions here!

Although I understand everyone’s objections to the use of the word “healting” in some sense, I think that some of the longer termed members, like the 50 year people, have observed complications can get reduced from generally improving control and I think that we generally have noted improved control in a macro sense from eating less. I would speculate that the raw vegan diet is inherently “eating less” because there are less options?

I agree that eating raw vegetables (if you can digest them well) is healthy; I think the objection was to the words “healing T1”.

If she’d written “healing for a T1” or “healthy for a T1” I think there would have been far less offense taken.

I think we’re all a bit knee-jerk in our reactions to anyone who gives off even a whiff of Ye Olde Snake Oil. There’s an awful lot of it sloshing around in the tubes of the interwebs.

That’s true but Jen, the OP, didn’t reference a “program” she’s selling or anything like that and seems to have been around the TD for awhile too, both of which would be counter-indicators of slithering.

I have Hashimoto’s also. I’m a peanut butter junkie! That’s one on the list that I have a hard time eating in moderation.

Guilty as charged! I have Hashimotos and avoid soy, but share your feelings on peanut butter!

I almost cried when I read about peanut butter.

Before I responded to this thread, I checked out Jen. She is not new, she joined a few years ago. And although she has not been an active member, she has nothing about her to suggest that she is not just another one of us trying to find their way.

There is a lot of conflicting information and people do have very different beliefs. Do you realize that my public library has about five times more books from Neal Barnard on “Reversing Diabetes” (a vegetarian tome) than it does from Richard Bernstein “Diabetes Solution.”

I have my own personal opinions on diet. And I am concerned about people who try to “scam” us diabetics. But there are people here who follow similar diets to the OP and they have a place in this community and should be able to discuss things without being jumped on.

Hi Pilcrow,
No, I’m actually eating about 15-20% more carbs. I think a lot of the foods I now eat are easier for me to digest and my body is able to properly use the insulin I provide more efficiently.

I was originally on a high protein/fat/Atkins/ala-Bernstein diet.

I apologize if I offended anyone with my wording. I am fully aware that my diabetes is not cured and never will be cured. I suppose my wording should have been chosen differently.



However, regardless of never being completely healed or cured, I have definitely seen ‘healing’ in my body. The 15 lbs that I struggled to shed for years finally came off…and this is while eating a lot more food. The urination issues I once had (mild forms of neuropathy, I won’t go into detail) have been greatly reduced, my mood has improved (I am not as depressed as I once was). I’ve also never had this tight of control while using this little insulin. My levels were ranging in the high 200s before, and I never go higher than 140 now. So yes, while I do understand the frustration people have with the words “cured” and “healed” being thrown around for a disease we desperately wish could be, but sadly just can’t…I have seen progress in a healing sense.



I am not trying to advertise anything other than my own experiences and path so that any diabetic who may have an interest in this lifestyle might get some ideas. This way of eating is surely not for everyone, and while no one can argue that fresh fruits and vegetables are healthy, the details of what consists of a healthy diet can be subjective, as well as personal.



Food can be as personal as religion and politics, as I’ve learned from some of the fired up comments in this thread. I never meant to claim that this is the way for everyone, simply that this is the way that has shown me relief and happiness.



I come to this forum for support, and I think we should all applaud each other when one finds a path that works, regardless of what that unique approach may be. I’ll be honest, I felt hurt by some of the comments posted here, but to hold onto that negativity is counterproductive, and I’m still proud of how far I’ve come.

Agreed. I hope I didn’t. ;0)

Good for you Jen. I am glad you found something that works for you! Keep letting the negative comments roll off of you. You should be proud that you have lost weight and found a way to do this with good control. Keep doing what works for you.

Thanks for your thoughtful post, Jen.

I’m very happy for you that you are finding a way to have better control, use less insulin, have improvement in your complications, lose weight, and in general feel better.

I think that’s fabulous.

Now that we’re all clear on the term “healed” (!!!), let me just say that I’m sure your post will be helpful to others, too. As I mentioned before on this thread, I can’t digest all the raw cellulose, but for those friends and family members of mine who love the raw foods diet, they also find it very (yikes) “healing”

Thanks Moss! :slight_smile:

Haha! Thanks for making me smile Jean!