Wicked low 30 minutes after Lantus please respond

Thanks for this info my endo thinks the same I just recently started injecting into my bottom for the summer because I get bruises on my thighs so I’m back to my thighs endo says Lantus only in arms thighs or abdomen I swore my CDE 2 years ago said that was okay for injections. You were right I was high the next day combo of used up insulin and glucose tablet storm from 10pm. Robin

Thanks for responding, My endo thinks that is what happened because it felt SO different from just being low I could feel the trend or crash just so fast. I have changed injection sites back to thighs this particular injection was in my bum cheek ( can’t believe I just typed that) well Never again. Robin

Here are three sites that discuss Lantus Lows:

http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/5068/11388/lantus-lows/
http://dapaice.com/potpourri.pdf (scroll down to the graph near the bottom)
http://www.diabetesmonitor.com/thcn-lantus-continued.htm

This happened to me when I was taking injections.

I suppose it’s possible, but color me skeptical. I think it’s more likely you just had a freak low, perhaps from eating too little or exercising too much or shooting up too much at dinner. These things happen, often for no discernible reason (though I’m sure you’re body knows; unfortunately, your body is not a great linguist). I’ve taken long acting insulin for about 13 or 14 years, and I’ve hit blood vessels, but I’ve never had an instant low because of the long acting.

The way Lantus works is that it’s soluble in acid and precipitates at the pH of interstitial fluid. Perhaps for some reason your interstitial fluid was more acid than usual, or perhaps the Lantus you got contained more acid than usual. But if this happened every time, bottle after bottle, the latter isn’t likely.

Other long-acting insulins wouldn’t have the effect Lantus does when it goes into a blood vessel because they’re slowed down by different means.

I’m a type 2, and wasn’t taking bolus insulin. I injected Lantus when I got up in the morning. If I went down 100 points I’d be dead because that’s where I started.

Robin,

I’ve had this happen twice. I’m type 1.5 and I only use Lantus (8u in the AM). Each time I had a fasting around 120 and after my injection dropped to the 20s within 15 minutes. Scary. I, like you, was frantically eating whatever I could get my hands on. I have to think that I somehow injected into my bloodstream; otherwise, I cannot explain such a quick reaction/low. Or, perhaps I could just blame it on the unpredictability of diabetes : )

Thank you for your insight, I do think I was dehydrated that evening and also had just recently moved that injection from front of thigh to buttocks, and the Lantus insert says arms,abdomen or thighs oops well I’ll never do that again! Robin

Thank you I love this Tudiabetes because I don’t feel all alone with this. For the last month I make sure I’m at 180 for bedtime and this Lantus injection, you do not need insulin with meals that is great! I hope that is all you need in the future when my pancreas quit it just quit:( Robin

This can happen with Lantus. I call it ā€œLantus lows.ā€

Lantus lows - Insulin & Pumps - Diabetes

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The way Lantus works so slowly is that it’s acidic in the bottle, and when it’s acidic, it’s soluble (this is also why it stings). When you inject into the body, the body’s pH neutralizes the acid and it becomes insoluble and clumps. The clumps dissolve slowly.

But if you inject into the bloodstream, or close to a capillary, it gets carried off and won’t clump. It then acts just like R. If you normally used something like 5 U of R but you use 20 U of Lantus, you can see why you’d suddenly go low. It happened to me once.

A friend says with him it takes about 45 minutes, so your 30 minutes isn’t far off.

Agreed. it’s really hard to get low on Lantus. Especially after 30 min :confused: