Lack of Continuity in Information out There -I Give Up!

Thanks, I will ask…
I have the feeling the dietitian wants to control things. She said my doctor usually will listen to her.

Seems a lot of people don’t get the correct diagnosis from what I’ve read here. Surprising how many doctors don’t run these tests.

A big plus that your doc will take her suggestions. Worth it if she can help you in this way. Maybe you could discuss insulin with her also. Your meds aren’t helping your BG. Even if you are really Type 2, many Type 2s take insulin. Just read an article at www.diabetesincontrol.com about how more doctors are prescribing insulin for their Type 2 patients, often along with other meds to help improve resistance.

Have you ever been seen by a Certified Diabetes Educator? Is this nutritionnist the only one you can go to? and is your doctor an endocrinologist? Your medical advice seems a little strange and not personally applicable to you … If your doctor and nutrionist have never heard of the GAD antibody test, c-peptide levels or are against such tests for you, then it is probably time to move on, if you can.
Regular spiking to over 200, 2 hours after eating , is not an indicator of good control.
A1c is an “average” of your blood sugar numbers, 6.3, which sounds good, is the average of all your lows and highs. You did say that you feel low at 110 or so. Do you test all the time to see how high is high and how low is low?

I know this is so frustrating to you, getting such conflicting and confusing info from your medical team. Please do not give up. Read and arm yourself with information. People here at Tudiabetes are here to help.

God Bless,
Brunetta

Thats what I went to, a Diabetes educator.
I called her tonight, and told her I am over 200 now, and she laughed and said, “Oh, yes…” and she said, to keep with the diet and we will talk when we meet in two weeks.
Yes, I do feel low at 110.
I felt pretty clear headed on a meat and vegetable diet. I don’t buy this woman’s “You have to have carbohydrates!” stuff.
They really push the carbs.
I think they hate protein. She is only allowing me 4-6 oz of protein PER DAY, thats per day, not per meal. I asked her about 5 times, to be sure, and its on her food plan sheet!!
Now, I have food cravings. This ADA diet is bad. It is all about eating the things everyone else eats and I don’t care about that.

I am so tired of all of this. I do appreciate the people here, they are good folks!

Do you have any kidney problems? Is that why you are limited to such a low amount of protein? I do not know if there is a group for" Diabetics with Celiac disease" on the Tudiabetes website, but you could check on the Group page and maybe post in such a group with your concerns. I know there is a group for people with “Diabetes and other health conditions.”, or the like. You may also want to search the web for examples of dietary regimens for people with celiac disease and diabetes…See what is being noted there about protein intake.

Hope these suggestions help you, Twix.

God Bless,
Brunetta

I have changed doctors 3 times in 2 years. I haven’t found one who really “cares”.
I don’t expect them to “care”, but I expect them practice medicine.
Perhaps it is the insurance companies holding them back.

I think that you’re getting lousy “care” from your diabetes educator. I can’t imagine getting a laugh for a response when reporting BGs over 200. That’s plain old unprofessional.

If you can switch to a different diabetes educator, I think it would be a good idea. You don’t have much confidence in your current provder and no matter what, you’re frustrated and stress can cause high BG. Your intuition is telling you that the high carb diet doesn’t work for you. Trust your instincts and keep looking for a better person to be on your healthcare team.

Also, you can look for a certified diabetes educator on this site: http://www.diabeteseducator.org/DiabetesEducation/Find.html

That credential might help you find someone who’s a better fit for you.

Hang in there!

Yes Trixy, it’s tough to find a good doctor when you have
Medicaid for insurance. You have to care, like I said previously
you have to educate yourself with books and the internet.
Sometimes in hospitals they have Diabetic departments that
help people in your situation. Like I said you must find another
doctor and dietician, the ones you have are no good and non-caring.
Go to a hospital or call them and get some referrals to professionals.
Under Medicaid, there are some out there but you must look harder.
It’s up to you to take action, positive action.
Let me know what happens after your call to the hospital for some doctors
and Educators names. There are most likely some right at the hospital.

No kidney problems, renal labs are fine.
She said you don’t need much protein, it’s not good for you. "You need CARBS!"
I know a lot of celiacs fill up on protein, say a chicken breast and veggies for dinner.
I will check out that site, and thank you!

Guess she’s not read any recent papers & research about excess carbs being responsible for many health problems, including bad lipid profiles.

I have been to several of these “educators” and they push carbs.

They all push carbs. Lots of carbs. They think protein is bad for you and you don’t need it. They think fats are bad too.

Fats are not bad. Actually, the right fats in the right amounts are very good for you.

How do these people get to be authorities on this? Has anyone had any success being on these carbo-heavy diets?

I hear you! That’s been my experience with the diabetes ed classes I dropped out of, a CDE, nurses & dieticians. They’re all being educated & given the same info. Same party line. Ideas are slow to change.

Adequate protein is critical. Humans could survive without eating any carbohydrates, not that anyone should because we need the nutrients in vegetables, but we can’t live without protein. About 57-58% of protein turns into glucose, so we’d never starve our brains or lack carbs.

How do they get away with this?
How are they the educators? If what they were promoting is the correct thing to do, wouldn’t most diabetics NOT be having problems?
Don’t any of them question this, and wonder why carbs are being promoted to diabetics?

Check this out, and the next page, she is promoting eating at McDonalds…like having a cheeseburger is a better choice than a Quarter Pounder. We all know what happens, someone eats the cheeseburger and it isn’t enough food, because it is the wrong food.
I posted a reply asking why she is promoting such things, and she removed my comment!
She is a Diabetic Educator. http://www.diabeteseducationblog.org/voices/2009/07/amys-personal-journey-with-exercise.html#comments

Not MY diabetic educator, but that’s what these snake oil peddlers are getting paid for. They have created for themselves a huge market, and gee, if we all got better, what would they do?

She told me "you don’t need much protein to survive."
So that’s why the 4-6 Ounces per DAY!
I must have asked her 5 times, “Isnt that per meal???”

So here is what I find out…they medicate us, so we can eat like other people. "So you can have what others eat!"
I said, “You think I am worried about that? I don’t want to take medicine so I can eat more carbs, for pete’s sake!”

I have no respect for this profession.

I am going to lump them in with politicians. And used car salesmen are way above diabetic educators.