Hi all!
I can not get it right. Last month I’ve started to binge after dinner. And I can not stop. Everyday I say no more tomorrow and just continue the next day.
I eat around 30-40 carbs a day, 3 meals a day, never hungry betweeb meals until after dinner. After dinner I can not stop.
I can eat butter, cheese, butter with cheese, hasselnuts, brazil nuts and pecans. I tried not to buy them and I did well for a couple of days, but then I’ve got craziest cravings again.
According to the moderate protein theory I need to eat less of protein and more fat. 60 gr protein is like a half of breakfast. I tried to add more fat but still no change after dinner.
Of course I gain weight, of couruse it spikes me at night and my morning sugars last couple of days were very bad.
How can I stop? Everyone says that they feel satisfied on low carb and never hungry. Why am I not? I can eat a lot of fat like salted butter and dont get satisfied. Is it lack of discipline or is it amylin as Bernstein describes?
Any advice appretiated. I will stick to lowcarb, it works, i’ve reduced my insulin dosages and have stable BG, if I don’t binge.
I don't gain that much weight from nuts, cheese and stuff like that. I pretty much eat > 1/2 my calories after 5:00. What I do when I want to drop a couple of lbs is to look at what I'm eating and try to cut out some carbs here and there. 8G of carb bread instead of 12G of carb bread, V8 instead of skim milk. There's not a lot of room to improve, except at dinner and the lounging around eating after dinner. My BG is ok but I still am very comfy eating and drinking at the end of the day. I come home, I take junior where she needs to go, try to squeeze in a workout and then hang out. A lot of the time, I sort of overbolus for dinner and just use one big shot to cover the evening's "grazing".
The nuts you should be ok as a lot of them are actually good for you and good fats too. I eat a lot of walnuts & almonds maybe up to 2 ounces daily and it doesn't make me gain weight. The butter & cheese though not as good for losing weight. I know its so hard I battle that too and it seems to happen at certain times of the month. Its usually if I cut out too much fat or calories its like my body fights back and I start craving carbs real badly. Usually once I have a night fatty meal it will subside a bit. I do find that if I take a long walk after dinner sometimes it will actually curb my cravings and it will subside.
I'm wondering if your issue isn't related so much to low carb setting off cravings as to emotional issues regarding food, weight, body image. If you are binge eating you might consider you are at the start of developing an eating disorder which your attempt at low carb might actually be making worse. I'm not saying low carb causes eating disorders, far from it, but for those of us who are subject to those type of issues, "feeling deprived" can bring those feelings to the fore and when we feel deprived we overeat. You might want to consider modifying your carb intake and seeing if that makes a difference.
My experience is that if I set a target in carbs, I can eat virtually unlimited protein and fat. I don't go hungry, I eat. Yes, I have to worry about bolusing for protein. Although I follow Bernstein, I adapt and eat lots more protein than he recommends, particularly when weight training. So my suggestion is to gather lots of things which you can eat (low carb) at night and if you are still hungry, then eat. I actually don't count calories or limit portions.
If eating doesn't satisfy you, then your issues may be more emotional as Zoe suggests and due to carb addiction. But don't give in to "just a bit" of carbs, if you are carb addicted, that may well result in a binge.
My practice (and experience) essentially mirrors Brian's. I also follow Bernstein and I also eat considerably more protein than he calls for. I do measure the protein portions and take them into account when bolusing for meals, but the portions themselves are considerably larger than he specifies. Considerably.
I have a similar problem as the OP. I do okay with low carb during the day. But late in the afternoon, after my hubby has gone to work, low carbing becomes "all bets are off". Are David and Brian saying that increasing protein intake may help curb carb cravings? I've struggled with this craving for a long, long time.......and I need to lose weight.
It's easier to binge in the evening. During the day we're active & occupied. Perhaps boredom or stress is setting off this need. Did something happen last month when this started? Have you tried eating more at dinner to curb the hunger? Is BG low when you're hungry?
I've been eating LC for going on 5 years. I rarely feel hungry.
Protein & fat curb hunger cravings because they're slow to digest. Some people find high fiber supplements also help with filling satisfied. But, if it's emotional eating, then it's a different story.
Excess protein leads to weight gain or stalls weight loss, so you need to determine how much protein you need http://www.phlaunt.com/lowcarb/DietMakeupCalc.php. Fat is high caloric, of course, so it's still a matter of some moderation when wanting to lose weight.
You probably don’t eat the amounts I do :-). I gained 4 kg by doing so. Te crazy thing, Everyone advices to eat more fat, like butter or coconut oil.
I can eat a lot of butter before I feel satisfied and hunger goes away. That scares me
Well, in 100 gr brazil nuts its like 600 calories. And I can easily eat 100 gr :-). To be honest, I can easily eat 250 gr :-(.
I don’t crave carbs any longer. i crave brazil nuts :-). I think my body adjusted to low carb but these after dinner times, they destroy all my work with good BGs during the day.
I have always been weight contious. But this is very different, this hunger after dinner that causes me to binge is very animalic, it feels like hypo hunger, but I have good BGs.
Yes I’ve tried and I can never guess the right time for extended bolus on MDI for that.
I usually eat at 18:30-19:00, have perfect BG 2 hours later, good BG when I take my basal and at night, around 12 it spikes me with high numbers.
I’ve tied different time to add more insulin to predict highs, but it never worked as it should.
I am not low when Iam hungry :-(.
That is a reflection of what Bernstein calls "the laws of small numbers". The point is just that with fewer carbs, you need less insulin. Smaller doses = smaller possible errors. Larger doses = larger potential errors.
Thanx, according to these calculations, and others (http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/) I should be eating like 70 gr of protein, based on my weight. It feels like too little for me. And when I eat more, I am out from ketosis :-).
I will try more fiber, I thought about it.
I was trying to eat if hungry as Kostdoctor writes as well :-), but it put me into 4 kg plus
May be it takes time? And I am carbaddict :-). But I don’t binge carby stuff at all.
