I don't drink juice unless I'm low or dropping during a meal sometimes. I did have some oj with breakfast when I was first out of hospital. As I recall the effect on my bg wasn't that bad compared to wheat/potatoes and things like that. Most of us don't want to waste a lot of carbs on liquids and liquids are known to raise bg very quickly which is why many of use them for bad lows.
If I drank juice at night with no bolus I'de be above 200 long before I woke up or if not I'de wake up much higher than 180. Sometimes I wake up higher from eating nothing to stop dp and or simply not doing my fast acting dp corrections if I sleep through a dex alarm or just decide maybe I will go low today instead of up.
I don't think 180 a couple of times a week is going to ensure all of the major complications. Chronic high bg is another matter. The truth is no one knows for sure why some people have complications and others don't because many people who had D in an era where tight control wasn't possible don't have any major complications or only have had a beginning of them later in life.
I drink filtered water, teas and sometimes make my own sodas with stevia if I want to sweeten them, sometimes almond milk. I was drinking red wine at dinner but I have stopped that now.
I am not sure why people are so much averse to the idea of drinking juice. If you bolus for it then you can have a little.. why not ? Also before going to gymn is the best time when you can treat yourself a little. You are going to burn it off on that treatmill or cardio !!
I don’t like juice enough to consider it a treat and few things will jack up my BG as much as juice, even before I work out. The way it plays out on a CGM is pretty ugly to my eye.
I was replying to cherryred, looks like she likes juice. Everybody is different and people do want to eat something they love.
Plus fruits/juice provide minerals/vitamins which are essential for us. Sometime we get too caught up in amount of carbs that we forget about them. It's all about budegeting your carbs. I can skip my morning coffee and have some juice or eat little less food and have little choclate.
Now everybody is different, so ofcourse use your judgement.
I do miss orange juice in the morning or when it's really hot. SO I have found some fruit juice mixes, powdered at WM that have the taste of orange, or other flavors that I mix with regular water, No calories, no carbs, just water. Not perfect, but they suffice. I also drink a lot of flavored sugar free waters from Wally World. We have horrible water where I live, and they even tell you not to drink it, but I have developed the water habit, and will NOT drink water that comes from the faucet. In all things it's a trade off, drinking my fruit or eating it. Eating will fill you more, and you get more than just juice from the actual fruit. Not everyone's choice, but it works for me
Fruit juice has marginal amounts of vitamins and minerals. Nutritionally, think of a glass of orange juice as roughly equivalent to a glass of Coke (both are almost entirely water and fructose, with trace amounts of other things). Fine in moderation, with careful portion control, and very careful timing and magnitude of bolus insulin, but for many of us, just not worth the hassle.
Fruit is another story, at least some fruit. An apple is a very discrete portion, with relatively modest and predictable carbs, and tons of fiber, and a few other helpful ingredients. Grapes, on the other hand, are basically sugar water. Which makes them a wonderful basis for producing wine--that's how I prefer to consume my grapes!
I crave juice as well, but I don't drink it unless I am low, hence a juice box. I don't eat cereal, pancakes, and waffles for the same reason. Too many carbs, and too hard to cover correctly and then have a blood sugar roller coaster. For some reason I do not struggle with cookies and milk, ha.
I do, on occasion, drink real juice when I'm not low!
Although reading through the rest of these replies shows I'm in the minority, I maintain my stance that even though its not easy to manage the right insulin calculations, and my BG will go up sometimes beyond what the nutrition label suggests, somedays the happiness in a glass of lemonade is worth more to my happiness than keeping my BG in range as best as possible. I also eat other things that I "shouldn't", and I consider the "happiness factor" in my food choices as a real thing, although its nebulous and can change daily, for my own sanity and ability to maintain a happy demeanor and some semblance of regular-person-ness, if I think a food will bring more happiness than the ensuing BG-mess is likely to be, then I get to eat it. Lemonade and chocolate-dipped waffle cones are my biggest two, although birthday cake is pretty high up there as is the occasional gas station donut.
I don't use this as an excuse to eat whatever all the time, but I think the question "is this bolus/injection- worthy?" is the generally the same thing, and there are many of us who consider that a legit question when contemplating what/if to eat. (The banana bread my co-worker's wife makes is NOT; the pumpkin bread she makes IS; grocery store cake is NOT; anything with mocha frosting IS.) You'll figure out over time what things you are fine giving up or replacing without issue, and which foods you still really really want even after learning the mess they can make of your BG. In general, you want to make more better choices than not, but the occasional happiness-producing choice isn't likely to make or break anything!
Two other small notes though: Sometimes a smaller portion is enough to fix the need/craving you have for a certain something, so maybe 8 oz of juice used to be the standard but you find that 3oz will keep you happy now. Its worth playing around with at least. Secondly, seltzer water or diet 7up mixed 50/50 with your favorite juice cuts the carbs in half right off the bat, but keeps most of the same flavor (well, at least for the citrus juices, I don't know how well apple or grape juice would work), but its also something to try next time you find yourself sick of water!
Pasta and ice cream are my stay away from foods. Both of which drive me nuts because I am a pasta-holic and during the summer, I could live on ice cream. But I stay away from them as much as possible or cut the portion down to insignificant.
I used to eat bags of M&M's....I mean 1 and 3 lb bags of them before being diagnosed. Well, I decided long ago that M&M's and I will never see each other again. Then I found carob-chips. A lot like M&M's only not as sweet and much, much lower in carbs....but they didn't do the trick. So I had read information saying, that sometimes the REAL thing in smaller portion will curb the need to eat more of the fake stuff. With the M*M's, I allow myself a funsize bag, or maybe 1/2 of that size maybe once every two weeks. It curbs my need for chocolate, and I can control that much because it's already portion controlled. So I do the same with other foods I crave, I check out the craving.....wait 30 minutes once it hits, and if I still want it, measure out a portion I can have and the slowly enjoy it. We can eat anything as long as we make allowances for it....portion control and moderation,.
