What can I have for breakfast?

I have it with Equal and a dash of vanilla. Tastes almost like cheesecake! :slight_smile:

Thanks for your suggestions. I think I need to change the way I think about my meals. I am stuck in a mindset of cereal or toast for breakfast, sandwiches at lunchtime and then a big carb loaded meal in the evening. Because this is what I have always done. In the days I was on 2 injections a day I would have to do this to feed the insulin I suppose.
The thought of having yogurt for breakfast is just odd to me, it is a dessert after dinner surely? (In my head I mean, I’m not saying I’m right!!).
Also with my longstanding fear of hypos, I do like to see that rise in bg after a meal, so I know it is going up and not down!!
I’d rather not have eggs and cheese in the morning as I have high cholesterol (controlled with statins) so I don’t want to eat fatty foods.
And what are egg beaters?? I don’t think we have those in the UK.
As for the ICR, when I tested my morning basals I had a constant steady bg if I didn’t eat breakfast, but if I do eat breakfast I need less than 1 unit per 10g carbs. The rest of the day I am 1 unit to 10g (I think - haven’t tested basals for a while!).
The New Year means back to basics for me I think, I am at least keeping my bgs under 10 (180) this week. Yes I can hear your gasps of shock!!!
Thanks again, any more suggestions welcome,
Dee x

Unfortunately, Dee what you said in your first sentence, ā€œI need to change the way I think about mealsā€ is exactly what is called for. When I was diagnosed I hadn’t eaten sugar for 13 years, I was vegetarian and ate mostly whole unprocessed foods, so I figured I ate healthy. I did, just not for a diabetic! It does take a real paradign shift and isn’t easy because food is a big part of how we experience our world from the time we are babies. It’s got all sorts of extra emotional connotations attached.

That being said: For me I had pretty much shifted to cereal and fruit or granola yogurt and fruit for breakfast (must be a U.S. thing), because I also had high cholesterol. The idea of eating 2 eggs a day felt counterintuitive. But my cholesterol is well controlled with statins and I’m not entirely sure I actually have high cholesterol since I lost my extra weight. I’ve had my numbers checked since I changed to eating eggs and they are still quite good. Cereal (especially with fruit which is how I like it) is impossible for me now, and I tried many different ā€œhealthyā€ types. So I eat some form of eggs daily - and there are lots of ways to vary omelettes, scrambles, breakfast meats if you eat them, etc.

I’ve noticed some people have mentioned milk. My addition to this is try Unsweetened Soy Milk.
When using regular milk, well 2%, I’ve found that I don’t tolerate the sugars (would have said lactose, but different type of intolerance) as well. I had usually spiked pretty nastily. Once I switched over, I can handle a nice bowl of corn flakes in the morning, most of the time… YDMV

I was like that everything I ate for breakfast made me high so my mom gave me 1 unit extra and guess what it worked . someone on here told us to do that . I figure my ratio to carbs as normal and then add one unit extra .

Same with me for years, so about 6 months ago I created a temporary basal at +50% for an hour after I eat breakfast…problem solved.

I would eat what you like and adjust the insulin, we have to do without a bunch of stuff, why not enjoy things when you can.

It would not be unusual to find that your basal requirement in the morning is higher than the rest of the day and most important, you may be somewhat insulin resistant in the morning. Using a different I:C ratio for your breakfast may be useful.

The $64 question would be what the difference is between a different basal rate and different carb ratios? I hedge my bets and do both, just to be on the safe side!

Dee,

FWIW shredded wheat is perhaps my favorite breakfast. I bolus based on my standard I:C ratio, but then I also do an extended bolus for the same amount. So effectively, I am doubling the bolus, but by using the extended bolus, I prevent the low at 30 minutes - 1 hour that I would have if I took it all at once.

These days I now have an exercise twist. If I am going to play tennis for 3 hours right after breakfast, I eliminate the extended bolus.

Mike

Exactly, in fact in a pump a basal is implemented as series of contstant small corrective boluses. The real question is how much insulin is required to offset your normal blood sugar rise and how much is needed to cover what you eat. I don’t know bout you, but my blood sugar rises with no good reason in the morning and hedging the bets just seems like the right thing to do.

Yeah, I’m fending off DP, coffee, stress, etc. so I figure a little bit of extra insulin won’t beat me up too much? I don’t eat more than 20G of carbs during the week. Ideally, on those occasions I drag my butt out of bed @ 5:15 or so, I’ll check my CGM, shower, go down, test and bolus if needed, take the dog out, eat the first ā€˜wave’ of carbs, about 10-12, maybe a piece of toast, let it ride for another 1/2 hour while I walk the beast and get my stuff together and then a glass of V8 and hit the road unless a spike materializes. I don’t see a lot of spikes in the AM and I always get a warm, fuzzy feeling from the veg/ vitamins in the V8…

The only key I’ve found for breakfast is to prebolus by a significant period. I bolus about 45 mins before breakfast which has enabled me to stay almost flat or raise modestly from say 90 to 100. I time my actual eating to co-incide with the point that my BG heads south following the bolus as evidenced on my Dexcom cgm. My typical breakfast is about 45 gm carbs contained in steel cut oatmeal, almond milk and blueberries. I’m type 1 using Omnipod. It might be worth trying the long pre-bolusing to see if it works for you. Good luck!

I do this too, my pump trainer suggested .3U while I disconnect to bathe, shave,etc. in the am so I do that but I sort of adjust it based on the CGM, usually, if it’s low, I’ll do .2U, .3U if it’s medium and up to .5U if it’s higher. If it’s really elevated for some reason, I’ll do a BG test and launch the CB early and add .5U to cover the shower. This pretty much invariably knocks it down and will sometimes lead to a low later on in the AM but I’d rather start lower and fix it than have a high ruin my day. If I get low, I’ve kicked the high’s ā– ā– ā–  and still feel pretty decent about it.

Before the Omnipod I always figured I would be in the BR in the morning for maybe 30 minutes so I would bolus half of my hourly bolus to cover. It seemed to work for me.

That is a great question. Wheat = sugar, no matter how you put it. If you are eating that with milk, you are adding more sugar to that mix, so it is a double whammy!
I like to think of breakfast as open. A lot of people think you need to have toast, butter, or peanut butter or whatever. Me, I just incorporate leftovers into the deal.
I usually start off with a couple of eggs (or 1 egg with 2 yolks because my son likes to eat the whites) and then I put whatever I have on hand with it. Be it chili, last night’s roast, whatever!
The advantage of this is that you know how it will affect you.
A lot of people might think this is weird, but really, us Northern Americans are really the only ones who think so. A typical Japanese breakfast is rice balls with grilled salmon, wakame salad, green tea, japanese pickles, and an egg thinly fried like an omelet. Totally savory, and could pass for supper here in the west.
Hope that helps!