A Cure Almost Worse than D: Transplanted Poop Cures Diabetes

I heard about that too Terrie.

Actually oddly enough my urine is how I found out I had diabetes. No one tasted it though! :slight_smile:
I had a urine test for a UTI and the nurse said I had sugar in my urine. How sweet am I! :slight_smile:
Maybe my urine could have used to make a some new fangled curative drink!

From wikipedia:



"The term diabetes (Greek: διαβήτης, diabētēs) (pronounced /ˌdaɪ.əˈbiːtiːz/ or /ˌdaɪ.əˈbiːtɨs/; /mɨˈlaɪtəs/ or /ˈmɛlɨtəs/) was coined by Aretaeus of Cappadocia. It was derived from the Greek verb διαβαίνειν, diabaínein, itself formed from the prefix dia-, “across, apart,” and the verb bainein, “to walk, stand.” The verb diabeinein meant “to stride, walk, or stand with legs asunder”; hence, its derivative diabētēs meant “one that straddles,” or specifically “a compass, siphon.” The sense “siphon” gave rise to the use of diabētēs as the name for a disease involving the discharge of excessive amounts of urine. Diabetes is first recorded in English, in the form diabete, in a medical text written around 1425. In 1675, Thomas Willis added the word mellitus, from the Latin meaning “honey”, a reference to the sweet taste of the urine. This sweet taste had been noticed in urine by the ancient Greeks, Chinese, Egyptians, Indians, and Persians. In 1776, Matthew Dobson confirmed that the sweet taste was because of an excess of a kind of sugar in the urine and blood of people with diabetes.[34] … The ancient Indians tested for diabetes by observing whether ants were attracted to a person’s urine, and called the ailment “sweet urine disease” (Madhumeha). The Chinese, Japanese and Korean words for diabetes are based on the same ideographs (糖尿病) which mean “sugar urine disease”."



EWWwwwwwwwww. lol

hah, it also says in there that in greek times they used zedoary root to lower blood sugar… interesting.

Gives a whole new meaning to the term “Eat S**t!”

There you go. So it’s not a wivestale. EEEEW! Thanks Lizmari.

Hmmmm, you do have a way with words Terry but how are you with tvs??

ROTFL!!!

Urea actually has antibacterial properties… Also its used to help diesel fuel burn cleaner…



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlue



Also known in Mercedes vehicles as BlueTec

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueTec

Urea is also an antifungal. Many, many diabetic creams contain urea these days. I have some that I use every day. :slight_smile:

Would we have to take insulin for the poop? And if so, how many carbs in a good-sized turd?? Anyone know??

(PS: That is a joke in case you cannot tell ;0)

Our stool consists to 70% of dead bacteria. These little fellows live in symbiosis with us. They process the food and we give them an environment to live and prosper. The amazing finding is that the people have not the same bacteria in their gut. It seems that some types of bacteria are missing or the balance between the bacteria types is very different in some people. This imbalance and the absence of some types seems to influence the sensitivity to insulin. With the proposed treatment gut bacteria from donators were transfered to obese people. It is just amazing that this changed the sensitivity to the better. For me this is the dawning of a whole new era of symbiosis related research. Not against the millions of years of peaceful coexistence but in recognition and amplyfication of these benefitial symbiotic relations. My thanks to bsc for bringing this up.

I had truly not appreciated how much interest and knowledge you had on this topic. I do agree with you that human digestion is a symbiotic process with bacteria playing a major and underappreciated role. I also am a big fan of using probiotics to maintain gut health. But it just strikes me as weird to undertake such a “poop tranplant” approach, rather than something focused on extracting a culture and providing a probiotic pill to patients. I am sure a “poop transplant” will bring in greater revenue for doctors, but it just seems a wacko compared to a simply pill.



What we have not mentioned is that gut bacteria have an important role in carbohydrate digestion. In fact, some significant portion of the carbs that we eat only are available to us because of this process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora#Carbohydrate_fermentation_an…). What was not clear to me was whether this study actually measured insulin sensitivity (with the clamp test) or just looked at postprandial blood sugars. Perhaps the obese pre-diabetics had gut bacteria that did too good a job of digesting carbs and the “healthy” gut bacteria resulted in a bacteria balance that did a worse job of carb fermentation. Given what I just said, it may be possible to disrupt gut bacteria so that food and carbs in particular are not well absorbed, thus reducing the glycemic effect of foods. Unfortunately, this may have gastric side effects, like that drug Alli. And in the long term, that may be even more disgusting than a poop transplant.

I read this article too! Uuugh! I shudder at the thought of how they get the poop into the other person! I was in shock too when I read this! What the heck! I don’t think id be up for a trial at that testing area! Nawwww I’ll stick with my diabetes! How about you???

Yes, I would like a turd from someone who eats a low carb diet please! :slight_smile: (But How many non-diabetic eat a low carb diet? )

I think they would probably do some sort of colonoscopy type of procedure and implant little piece by piece with that flexi snakey thingy. (can you tell I have had some colonscopies before? :slight_smile: ) Of course, it depends on where they need to place the poop too. With a colonscopy the snakey can only go explore a certain amount of your colon.

Ideally you would be able to substitute some of it for a probiotic… Problem is the stomach itself… Its a nastier environment than the gut lining itself… When you take a probiotic, the bioavalibility is the problem since the stomach tries to kill most of it… If you bypass the acid nature of the stomach, it does mean the bacteria are more likely to flourish…

Oh. I have to stop reading this now.

I think the researchers on this “cure” are full of poop. (I can’t believe no one came up with that one yet.)

In addition this is a salvage treatment for C-Diff… Idea is that the good bacteria crowd out the bad

Sick how do they get the poop in the other person. Oh man that’s just wrong on so many levels isn’t it.