On Saturday I tried a little experiment with some food. I had a roast beef sandwich on rye bread and tested myself before and after. I had some lettuce, cheddar cheese and cucumber on the sandwich also. I drank a full glass of water just before and a full glass of water right after eating.
My numbers on Saturday were 104 (before) and then 111 at 1 hour. I though great! This has to be good? But I just did the same test with exactly the same sandwich/water and before, 106 and just now at the 1 hour mark I’m 214?
I don’t understand? How can my body react so differently (over 100 diff) to the exact same food on 2 different days?
I tested twice so it cant be the test strip.
BTW. I’m type 2 (or LADA) and on no medication or shots.
Thanks for any help.
Frustrating & unpredictable when you’re LADA.
With LADA, if this is what you are, the pancreas is still producing some insulin. It happens in spurts. You had some of your own insulin to cover the first experiment, but none the second time.
Not that this is any consolation, but we all experience different results eating the same exact thing.
What were your readings at 2 hours after these meals?
Thanks Gerri,
I was 109 at the 2 hour mark on Saturday. I’ll test at 3 today and post my 2 hr number.
The only thing I did different this morning was to go for a 35min jog at 9:30. But since my numbers were the same before each test I don’t think this could have played a factor?
Agree, the run probably wouldn’t factor in that many hours away.
I just tested and I’m back to 140. But its just a little frustrating when trying to create a diet of foods and they can be off by so much.
Maybe it warrants a third test or maybe I should just write any kind of bread out 
Makes me wonder if any of my other meal tests (which I thought were good) actually spike me?
Maybe by the time I’m actually diagnosed as LADA I’ll have a good handle on all of this stuff ;(
Paul
If it’s not the unpredictable production of insulin as Gerri says, it’s some other variable.
It might be the fact that it’s a work day. I think it’s possible that your morning run had an effect. BG can rise four or five hours after strenuous exercise. It might be what you had for breakfast.
But I’m just speculating. Only scrupulous log keeping would identify the culprit(s), but even then - maybe not.
It’s certainly an illustration of how frustrating this all is.
Terry
I’d pass on bread. Grains are notorious for highs.
What’s happening with your diagnosis? Did your doctor do more tests?
Hi Gerri,
I gave up discussing it with my current Dr as she had to write LADA down on a notepad so I probably know more than she does.
My Cardiologist has been the only one to acknowledge that I don’t fit the typical profile of a type 2 and he agrees I am probably LADA (or an anomaly 
)… He told at this point, with my last a1c test currently at 6 there isn’t a lot to do but monitor my numbers. I just had blood work which included an a1c so will find out next week what that is. I would love to crack the 5 scale
I think I will have to reluctantly pass on the bread but I do love a nice sandwich ;( Its just hard at times when the rest of family are devouring sandwiches and such…
Paul
Hi Terry,
Breakfast was exactly the same so I don’t think it could have been that. Exercise has always lowered my numbers so I find it hard to believe the jog was a factor.
I work from home and have been staring at my monitor all morning but would have been walking around on Sat… But 100+ points?
Another set of notes for my D notebook…
You do know more than your doctor. Your cardiologist can order tests. Would be helpful to know where you stand.
Check out Linda’s Diet Delites for Healthwise breads. Healthwise makes zero net carb bread & rolls. Their nutritional label is actually certified, unlike others.
Healthwise has absolutely no effect on my BG. I’ve tried other allegedly low carb breads & they were a scam. Low carb bread is on the dry side, but it’s better than nothing. Tastes better heated or toasted. Healthwise dinner rolls are my favorite of their offerings, but the hambuger buns are good also. Healthwise has healthy ingredients as well. They also make a low carb bread (in addition to their zero net carb bread). You could probably handle it without problem.
I may have found the culprit…
I always have a protein shake (28g protein) with my breakfast and just realized that on Saturday I had breakfast/shake at about 10am and then the sandwich at 1pm about 3 hours later. When I had the sandwich yesterday it was 6 hours after breakfast which I usually have at 7am on weekdays.
Is it possible that the protein from the shake offset the carbs on Saturday?
Thanks Paul
I will have to read more about LADA since I don’t know much about it. With exercise the levels generally should decrease but sometimes they are higher. I have no idea why this happens in some people. We found that to be the case in a diabetes education class and we were puzzled. I don’t test after 1 hour but 2 hours and the level is down but takes longer after I eat a meal with some high carbs. I am a pre-diabetic. This whole thing is puzzling. At one hour the body is still trying to compensate but try testing at the two hour timepoint when it is supposed to be going down. Hope this helps but I’m not an expert, just trying to keep up with stuff.
Paul, this happens to me too. I can exactly the same thing day in and day out (not just two days in a row - in fact, I eat pretty much exactly the same breakfast everyday) and I will get a certain number spike on most days which is exceptable to me but that one day - it will be higher.
Yes, there are many uncontrollable factors as I have learned. Stress, hormones - I can kind of tell - for example, if I didn’t sleep well, I feel more exhausted (although THAT doesn’t always seem to be a definate factor either). For me, I can feel the adrenaline or other hormones -sometimes they make my numbers go higher and other times they don’t. Being a women, I have to deal with estrogen too which makes my numbers go higher on the same meal.
It isn’t an exact science I am afraid. It is frustrating because I can SO control my food - those hormones really mess it up for me. Makes me mad. It was only about the food - I woud have the exact same numbers all the time - ha! maybe I could throw my strips out! 
Hi Tonie,
When I was first diagnosed my Dr said that I was pre-diabetic but then I did some research and with the help of this community I was steered towards possibly being LADA. I seem to fit the profile (slim, over 40 and no history of “D” in my family). I tried 3 different Drs and each had no idea what LADA was until I saw my Cardiologist for a routine checkup for ongoing SVT and he was the first to agree I could be LADA.
I usually only test at 1 hr because I am always down at 2 hours and want to know what the highest point of my spikes are. I have great morning numbers (usually around 85-100) and this is why my cardiologist said that testing for LADA or Metformin isn’t absolutely necessary right now until that changes…
Thanks for your comment, Paul
I know exactly what you are saying…
Maybe at home when I’m working I can be stressed out (trying to design that perfect logo!) so this could be a factor also. I’m generally more relaxed on weekends.
Thanks for your input.
Here is a great “fake bread” … that I love … I add different spices to it… or if I want fake gingerbread … ginger… ( and so on)
Prep Time: 15 minutes
Cook Time: 20 minutes
Total Time: 35 minutes
Ingredients:
2 cups flax seed meal
1 Tablespoon baking powder
1 teaspoon salt
1-2 Tablespoons sugar equivalent from artificial sweetener
5 beaten eggs
1/2 cup water
1/3 cup oil
Preparation:
Preheat oven to 350 F. Prepare pan (a 10X15 pan with sides works best) with oiled parchment paper or a silicone mat.
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Mix dry ingredients well – a whisk works well.
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Add wet to dry, and combine well. Make sure there aren’t obvious strings of egg white hanging out in the batter.
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Let batter set for 2 to 3 minutes to thicken up some (leave it too long and it gets past the point where it’s easy to spread.)
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Pour batter onto pan. Because it’s going to tend to mound in the middle, you’ll get a more even thickness if you spread it away from the center somewhat, in roughly a rectangle an inch or two from the sides of the pan (you can go all the way to the edge, but it will be thinner).
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Bake for about 20 minutes, until it springs back when you touch the top and/or is visibly browning even more than flax already is.
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Cool and cut into whatever size slices you want. You don’t need a sharp knife; I usually just cut it with a spatula.
Nutritional Information: Each of 12 servings has less than a gram of effective carbohydrate (.7 grams to be exact) plus 5 grams fiber, 6 grams protein, and 185 calories.
Hi Paul,
Not sure what you mean by protein offsetting the carbs. Protein takes longer to digest. Six hours is more than enough time for your previous meal to have digested.
I always joke with people ANC say just breathing can affect my blood sugars. Lol
Hi Gerri,
I thought that protein slowed down the carb/glucose rate? I have found if I eat something like a hamburger which is high in protein then I can usually have it on a small weight watchers bun with little or no effect on my BG…
I dont think protein slows down the rate carbs are processed, but like Gerri said, protein is digested much slower so it it has more of slow rise but a sustained rise as apposed to a spike. Now fat, which is in your burger, slows the process of the stomach emptying into the rest of the digestive system so if there is a high amount of carbs with the burger, you might not get a spike for 3 to 4 hours instead of 1 or 2. I don’t know much about the WW buns,but if they are low carb, add to that the the protein effect and fat effect and that might explain why you see little change to your BG.