Diet soda raises sugar

Well no, not really. However, I went to the nutritionist this am w/ my kids (she weighted them wrong, was off by 8 lbs each and she thought I needed a lesson on feeding my children good meals :slight_smile:

Anyway on a form I filled out I put down that my youngest (2y/o) occasionally sips by caffeine free diet sodas. She repremanded me by telling me that diet soda raises blood sugar just as much as regular soda. I told her that it didn’t because it had not carbs. She insisted that it increases BG and therefore increases insulin supply and makes you gain weight!!! I explained that I have DT1 and knew for a fact that it did not raise BG. She told me there had been a recent study within the last 6 months proving otherwise.

I have heard that diet soda makes you crave carbs and this obviously can make you gain weight if you eat them, but has anyone ever heard this crazyness about diet drinks raising blood sugar and therefore insuling supply on diabetics or non diabetics before?

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard. 0 carbs means no raise in blood sugar…
This would turn me off from ever seeing a nutritionist. And not for nothing, if we are testing our bs as often as we do, wouldnt we notice if all we had was a diet soda and our numbers were rising?

The only thing in diet soda that may raise blood sugar is the caffeine. Studies have shown that larger amounts of caffeine reduce glucose uptake in T2 diabetics. My personal experience as a T1 is that I could drink diet soda all day long and my sugar wouldn’t budge. I also drink excessive amounts of coffee and that doesn’t bother my BG either.

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Once again, the medical field has some serious holes in it. This is the 2nd case in a week on this board that someone in the medical field gave incorrect information. I think that everyone who practices medicine should be tested yearly (and possible every 6 months) in what they specialize in. This is really scary that people who rely on medical experts diagnoses are give incorrect information. Make you wonder if you are really getting the attention you should be.

If an item is label with nutritional information, this is FDA approved information. 0 means 0. that nutritionist need to learn a thing or two.

I forgot the link to the study on caffeine and elevated glucose. Here you go!

I think it’s important to be cautious about broad statements like “never raises blood sugar” or “always raises blood sugar.” We all react differently, as you well know. Just a quick ‘google’ of the phrase ‘diet soda raised blood sugar’ revealed these three informative articles:

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Diabetes/messages/306.html
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes-diet/NU00592
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07205/803901-398.stm

Still, if the nutritionist can’t property weigh the kids, I’d wonder about her qualifications to make other judgments about nutrition.

Well stated Terry. while everyone reacts differently and diets sodas consist of different ingrediants, a blanket statement like always or never can get you into trouble.

I heard the same thing from a Registered Dietitian (albeit a young one) who works for a national chain of health clubs. She came to speak to a wellness group that I led. She stated that diet sodas taste sweet and “trick” the body into thinking you are ingesting sugar and therefore your pancreas releases insulin causing you to store more fat. When I asked her what would happen to me since I produce no insulin, she didn’t know. Methinks she didn’t know what she was talking about. I think there is a lot of nutritional misinformation given out by folks at health clubs and by so-called nutritionists. Of course there are still so many unknowns that some of it remains art rather than science.

No I hadn’t heard that one. I always heard that diet sodas had no sugar in them so that was a plus to help your kids not ruin their teeth and gain weight from all the sugar in real cokes.

There has been some suggestion (ref 1, ref 2) that neural input (sight and taste of food) can stimulate insulin production, but circulating blood glucose is the primary factor. While one’s sense of taste may or may not not effect insulin production, a study has shown a possible correlation between sugar-free diet products and over consumption of calories, leading to a possible explanation for why some people think diet sodas cause weight gain, insulin secretion etc…

Very interesting comments here.
I agree that everyone is different. DS has never raised my blood sugar and I have had db for 33 years and used to consume gallons of it.

However…I do think that it may be a trigger food for me, and sometimes cause me to overeat carb-wise.

I have also read recently in the GI Diet that diet caffeinated soda causes your body to produce more insulin thereby making you store more fat. In the book, along with eating low Glycemic Index foods you also are to cut off caffeine (something I can only do one at a time!) I have been addicted to diet coke for years and have always struggled with my weight. I am off it again, hoping that it will help in the weight battle.

I’ve heard this n that about diet fizzy’s - personally I don’t drink them, except for the very odd occasion when I have a drink of spirits - I use half normal Coke and half Coke Zero to slow the effects of the drink, it’s the only way I can get away with drinking a Bourbon and not spiking a mile high, or gagging at the horrible taste of sugar free drinks!

If diet sodas cause you to produce a little insulin, then what about Type 1s? If we can’t produce insulin, then surely diet drinks are harmless for us? (that of course doesn’t include the issue that the non-sugar sugars could be doing whatever kind of damage that the latest tests have shown!).

Whatever the case… I’ll stick with water!!

I’m equally disgusted in your nutritionists comments - I think a lot of us learn early on that the so called health professionals are only human. It doesn’t take long for us to lose that ‘bigger than God’ image that a lot of people have for their Doctors etc. What bothers me is that a lot of them still think they’re holier than thou, and that we don’t know zip about looking after ourselves. How can they just believe everything they read (or skim over, as it seems in this situation!) and then try to spread that mis-information to so many people? Gah!

yes, It is true that it would have to be a problem only for type 2’s. I guess my husband and son can drink as much as they won’t and their dead pancreases aren’t going to spit out a lick of insulin! Mine, however, will so I am trying to stay away from caffeine no matter how bleary eyed I seem to be…

M, you are right on the mark, Doctors don’t seem to know much about Type 1. My husband’s doctor on one occasion asked him if he tested at home and on another occasion asked how many times, to which he replied 6-8 times a day and the doctor told him he shouldn’t have to test that much. Needless to say he is now going to my doctor who actually knows that to switch from NPR to Lantus, you keep the levels about the same! There are a few who know, you just have to look hard to find them.

I heard that same thing quoted to me by fitness fanatics. Well, I tried it (before I was on insulin and was still making insulin), and it didn’t work for me. I know that doesn’t really speak to the study, but I just hate when people quote things at me saying they MUST be true when I know they’re not true for me, and then refuse to believe me.

You wanna hear ridiculous? I went to see a doctor, they had tested my BS and it was high. So, instead of giving me some fast acting Humolog or Novolog to bring it down a little, they had me to drink a 2-liter Diet Coke (in cups, mind you). For some strange reason, it did work. It brought it down from the 400's down to under 70 within an hour. I'm thinking to myself. "is this right?" I'm trying to cut back on sodas altogether and I'm not too fond of artificial sweeteners....