Dr Bernstein vs Hope Warshaw video on DLife

The first 3 sentences out of her mouth made my jaw drop. I know, I know…

The link doesn’t work for me.

Here’s a working link. I especially liked Dr. Bernsteins demo of why eating whole grain bread vs white bread still causes spikes, it’s the starch stupid. Enjoy.

That was good, thanks for posting it! Go Dr. B! I liked when she said Americans don’t eat healthy - no crap with people like her telling people to load up on carbs and low carb doesn’t work.

Thanks for the link. I thought it ironic that her clothing and her hairstyle was decades out of date. Sorry, couldn’t resist.

I HATE that she said people won’t stick to it… who is she to judge me and others?? Tell people something won’t work and for most people it won’t.

Some of us believe that our health is more important than cakes and cookies. I eat very well, never feel deprived. I do splurge very occasionally. No studies??

I loved when he made the comment about canine teeth! I’m still seething.

Sorry about the bad link, thanks BadMoon for posting the good one.

Agreed. All the attitude of “they won’t stick to it” and the whole “no bad foods” campaign seems to be based on seeing the worst in people. As someone who has worked with the new recovery model in mental health that helps to see the best in people it’s against everything I stand for.

I also felt there was a lot of apples and oranges so far as not distinguishing between type 1 and type 2. I haven’t seen that segment on dlife so don’t know if it was covered, but I think there is a difference between type 1’s and type 2’s in how much of a difference whole grain vs “white” makes.

Interesting discussion, it only makes me wish that Hope Warshaw and the ADA would see the validity in what Dr. B. has to say. Even if both would compromise just alittle. I currently follow a low carb diet but in addition to meat, eggs and non starchy veges. I sparingly include some fairly low carb fruits and breads. Fruits include raspberries, blueberries and strawberries.Bread includes low carb tortillas and rycrisp all while maintaining approx. 30-50grams of carbs per day. I think the amount of carbs someone can handle per day varies, but, 45-60% is too much. Even if Hope Warshaw and the ADA would acknowlege that low carb works and promote it to some degree it would help countless people. I’d jump for joy if they would limit carbs to 30% as a recommendation, it would a least show they were trying to acknlowledge that diabetics do need a different type of diet than persons without diabetes…

I compare people with diabetes to people with celiac disease. People with diabetes are unable to process carbohydrates, people with celiac disease are unable to process gluten. No one has a problem with people who have celiac disease removing gluten from thier diets so why is it so hard to understand that diabetics should remove carbohydrates from their diets?

The basic error Hope Warshaw makes is assuming all diabetics are alike and thus that same level and types of carbs are appropriate for all. Spend much time on this board and you realize the folly of this.

Here’s another commentary about Hope Warshaws recent article in Diabetes Health. Scroll down and check out the list of pharmaceutical companies contributions to the ADA. It’s not too hard to connect the dots.

I agree BadMoon that a huge error is assuming we’re all alike. I think though that the basic error she makes is assuming ONLY she is right. I didn’t see any consideration from her end that anything but her way can work for anyone.

We really need some sort of letter/document signed by as many of us as wish stating our issues with her viewpoint and our successes with our WsOE. Arghhhhhhhhhh

Rightness of Arrogance. Love it Judith! She could use some empty mind exercises.

Let’s apply her “logic” to injections:

“People won’t inject insulin because it’s difficult to calculate and painful to stick a needle through your skin.”

To testing our BG’s:

“People won’t test their blood glucose because it’s messy, expensive and people don’t like to be poked with a lancet.”

To exercise:

“People won’t exercise because it makes you hot and sweaty and gym memberships and exercise equipment can be very expensive.”


People do all kinds of messy, difficult, painful and expensive things for their health. Let US decide if we’re willing to forgo the heaping bowl of fruit salad, the huge slices of whole wheat bread or the cloyingly sweet sorbet in order to keep our BG’s under control with lower insulin doses!!!

My eye-sight is worth it. So are my feet, kidneys and heart. Sure, I used to love breakfast cereal, rice and pasta, but I don’t need it to have a happy life – why push it on me if it raises my BG’s and I simply don’t need it?

She does sort of look like she got lost on the way here from 1978, doesn’t she?

(I know…meow…)

They tiptoe around us, too.

(Shhhhh…sure that little blue ball looks pretty and inviting, but they have armed themselves to the teeth with nuclear warheads. Give it a wide berth! They’ll be ready to join the rest of us in oh…about another million years or so.)

What really sticks in my craw is how she behaved towards Dr. B.

Here he is, a physician who has been a T1 since forever, and she’s talking over and around him, acting almost like he’s not really there, thinking she knows sooooooooooo much more than he does.

Wow. Just wow. If I had a chance to participate in a discussion about diabetes with Dr. B, I’d be looking him in the eye, asking him questions, complimenting him on his excellent control, his continuing dedication (at his age! he could easily be retired!) to the well-being of other diabetics.

She’s kind of a tool, isn’t she?

It wouldn’t be so bad if she herself actually did have diabetes. Then it would be ‘my diabetes management style versus your diabetes management style’. But she doesn’t, does she?

If I had a fairy godmother or a spare genie lurking in a bottle, I’d ask them to give people like her diabetes for Christmas. Not just for Christmas of course, for life. And then actually try their own advice on themselves.

Is that really mean of me?

I’d be interested in the difference too. Also what makes the difference?

Is it the presence of antibodies?

Is it the usage of insulin? (In which case would a Type 2 on insulin react differently to a Type 2 not on insulin?)

Is it an insulin deficiency issue versus an insulin resistance issue? How would that play out in a Type 2 who was also insulin deficient, or a Type 1 who was also insulin resistant?

In other words, it is probably much more complicated than a ‘Type 1’ vs ‘Type 2’ issue.

Yes :))))

You know, I wonder… When we were involved with special needs foster care/adoption, we strongly advocated that anyone considering a special needs child have one live with them for a week to get a ‘real feel’. When I was studying for my certification as a sign language interpreter, I lived (a few times) in environments where I was totally immersed - all American Sign Language, no spoken communication.

Maybe anyone making judgments, policies, etc about PWD should have to go to D camp or some such.

Just rambling. Still livid!

When she said that, I wish Dr. B had said that he had been doing it for x number of years - he is T1 and has obviously stuck to it. I wonder if she even knows anything about him. Maybe the run of the mill American public won’t stick to it, but like you said, when our helath is involved, that is a whole new ball game.