High night-time Blood Sugars when eating after 8pm

do you get high blood sugars when you eat or drink anything ( like a cup of tea or a spoon of sugar-free peanut butter) after 8PM?

i can have the best possible day of BSs around about 115-130, including a balanced and healthy dinner, which i eat at about 6pm.but God forbid i should want a nice cup of tea while sitting in front of the TV with my husband at 8:15pm, and i am positively guaranteed a night of Hellish extremely high (300s) blood sugars.

i am a pumper. i dont know why this happens. i am at my whits end...changing my basal rates, increasing my boluses, and on and on and on. but nothing i do seems to work successfully. i end up doing several correction boluses during the night. i become very insulin resistant (while during the day time i am completely insulin sensitive). NOTHING works.

ANYONE out there with this problem, or a success story, or any suggestions??

Have you been bolusing for them? I would try that if not to see if it helps. It could be that dp is starting then for you also. I have been going up around 10- 2am lately but it is very variable for me. I frequently have to do temp rates and corrections to stop spikes throughout the day. I woke up at 120's today, did a .7 correction and a 2 hour 118% temp rate and went back to sleep. Next time I woke up at 81 so I stopped a spike. Another time I will go low with a correction or wake up lower and not need a correction,

Human beings look for & find patterns in the natural world. It's what we are "wired" as an organism to do. We can't help but do this. It's a basic part of what defines us as animals. In fact, we do this so well that we often find patterns even when they are not there.

It does not seem to make a lot of sense that a cup of tea by itself could raise you BGs from "normal" range into the 300s. After all, what is there in the tea which could affect your BG? The only thing I can think of is the caffeine.

If caffeine has that great an effect on your BG then you should see this at other times of day as well, no?

I would suggest starting by verifying your assumption that eating after 8pm is throwing everything off. Go for at least a few days to a week without eating (other than to correct for low BG) or drinking anything (other than water) at night. Make sure that what you think is happening is what is actually happening.

And if a plain cup of ordinary tea is throwing off your overnight BGs that much, I would definitely ask my physicians about it, because that doesn't seem to fit with what I think I know about BGs.

-iJohn

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I’ve been experiencing the same highs no matter what or how much i don’t eat… this just started within the last week. So i came here looking for answers, not too surprised to find others experiencing the same thing…

Even when my day time numbers are great i’m high at 11 or 12pm for no known reason.

Has it gotten any better for you?

for whatever unknown reason, this problem has seemed to resolve itself. but perhaps you need to change your basal rate to cover the highs during this period. do you know what your overnight BGs are? i always wake up to pee in the middle of the night (sometimes at 3 am and sometimes at 5 am) and i test my BGs then to see if my overnight basals are correct. so far, so perfect. steady throughout the night and my fasting boluses are perfect as well.

i am no doctor, but i would ask your endo if you need to change your basal rates to cover those high BGs. maybe that will solve the problem. do you use a CGM? that would help as a guide to look at your patterns.

Protein causes my blood sugar to spike anywhere from 4-6 hours after I eat it. Food with more fat are slow to digest and can affect my sugars 2-4 hours after I eat. Caffeine will cause a rise fairly quickly after I consume it. My overnight highs can usually be tracked back to food that I consume in the evening. My strategy is to try and finish eating before 6 PM so I have time to watch for those late rises and bolus for them.

protein raises my BGs too. i find i must do a dual bolus to account for each serving: my formula for non-fatty protein is as follows: 1 serving equals 10 grams. i split my bolus 50/50 over a 2 hour time frame. it works like a charm. i do this for tuna, turkey, eggs, most fishes and cheese; i enjoy dark meat chicken, so i split the dual bolus differently: 40/60 over 2 hours. this seems to cover the slow digestion of the fatty meal. if i want to eat a very fatty steak or burger, i do the same split, but i extend the bolus over 3 hours. also, when i eat something like a burger or a steak, i eat about 20gms worth of protein. (i rarely eat beef, so when i do, its a treat and i want a lot of it!!! )

i know that when i started this post, i was experiencing the original problem of eating after 8 pm. however, since i started experimenting w/ the dual boluses i found that my BGs stay steady straight through the night and my fasting BGs are in target range.

perhaps this might help you. i hope so.