Sweeteners

Yup, very true. Makes things harder for both of us!!

And what about the harm of being advised to eat more sugar and just counteract it with additional insulin? That’s right out of the ADA playbook. Am I the only one who thinks it’s just ever so slightly nuts?

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Your post is anything but ā€œever so slightly nutsā€! (Meaning that it is spot on.)

You, on the other hand? Let’s just say that the jury with whom I consult is still out… :wink:

Hmmm. Well, you’d know, wouldn’t you . . . considering how you earn a living . . .

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Ok I need to chime in here and ad my opinion, (and this is just my opinion), so please don’t jump down my throat by what I have to say, remember it is just what I think.
FIRST, to the OP, I would get another Dietician, no Dietician worth their weight in salt should EVER tell a diabetic to buy food containing regular sugar or sugary treats…How long has it been since you or your dietician has had normal Blood sugars? I bet it has been a while…I bet you are BG chasing allot with insulin…I used to do this too, what ever I put in my mouth I didn’t care what it was I would cover it with a Bolus of Humalog insulin. My Blood sugars never came to within normal limits…now that I have changed my diet to ā€œnon-sugarā€ sweeteners, I use Stevia, and quit eat eating junk my sugars are normalized and I only bolus about 2 to 5 units of Humalog ALL day long…Of course I am on a pump and Humalog is also my basal Insulin.
SECONDLY and Finally, I think the ill effects everyone is thinking about is mostly that the ā€œnon sugarā€ sweeteners can cause cancer? There are others but in my research before even changing over to Stevia I have found no hard evidence other than in laboratory animals some ā€œnon sugarā€ sweeteners caused a plethora of medical conditions only AFTER the laboratory animals used were given HUGE amounts of the non sugar sweetener, WAY more than a human would ever consume…
as an aside, the powdered sweeteners do contain sugar and sugar addatives…I used to use Splenda which would blow my Blood sugars out of the water and I would be insulin chasing for HOURS…On Stevia LIQUID I have had no BG spikes…

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+1. And although it is right and proper to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, that sort of advice—still too prevalent—is why some of us have grown mental scar tissue where dietitians are concerned.

And ditto on the liquid stevia. I’m putting some in my tea right how. :sunglasses:

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Thanks for that addition Dave!!! you are right there…

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OP here Weaver. I don’t see a dietitian. Haven’t for a very long time. My dietitian from nearly 20 years ago didn’t tell me to buy sugar or sugary treats. I’m speaking only of the reality of life for many. You are putting quite a huge assumption on my blood sugar. It is very much in normal range most of the time. Thanks to CGM I can see that, and I can get ahead of my rare sugar-bomb decisions with that data. I mostly enjoy alternative sweeteners, but I, and I’d guess most of us, know how to enjoy sugar when I choose. I prefer to not consume large amounts of sugar, I opt out whenever I practically can. But I don’t believe in the ā€œyou can’t eat that, you’re diabeticā€ narrative. Not from normal-glycemics, and not from a fellow PWD.

Regarding the 2nd point you made, I have no disagreement with you. I don’t know enough about the science of it all to be concerned or not concerned about cancer, but yes, that is mostly the reason for my OP. I’ve spoken with great dietitians who have made some important points that have helped me decide to use them.

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I agree with you 100%. I never meant to infer you SHOULDN’T eat sugar or sugary treats, that is totally up to you. As for not seeing a dietician, Good for you, I refuse to see them because every dietician I know, and I know allot of them, the majority are obese, T2D, and taking insulin and eating junk…I know one dietician in particular who’s grossly obese, Type 2, and on insulin and everytime I run into her she LITERALLY has a Snickers Bar hanging out of her mouth…Why would I want to see someone like that when I’m trying to keep my T1 under TIGHT control…Good Luck to you…

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Dietitians are like doctors, mechanics, lawyers, plumbers, programmers, and every other occupation: there are good ones, bad ones, and a lot of ordinary ones in the middle. Painting all members of a group with the same brush is never valid. (Well, okay, perhaps in the case of used-car salesmen . . . :wink:)

Where the perceived hostility to dietitians comes from, I think, is that many of them continue to believe and promote long established but increasingly discredited principles that can actually be harmful when followed. Not all, of course; but concerning its reputation among many diabetics, it’s the ā€œbad appleā€ syndrome that casts the profession in a poor light. It’s like every other avenue of life; the only rational course is to take people as you find them, one by one.

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I never used any artificial sweeteners until I was diagnosed 3 years ago because of the awful aftertaste, especially when we only had saccharine as an option. I don’t use regular sugar at all. I cannot use aspartame (equal) as it gives me a migraine and I find it has an aftertaste. I like Truvia and Splenda, and buy it at Sam’s Club because I can get a huge box for very little money. I don’t use it often, so one box lasts a long, long time. I don’t like the taste of Agave either. I haven’t figured out how to bake with the artificial sweeteners. One thing I really like is Werther’s sugar free hard candies-especially the chocolate and original flavor ones, they taste the same to me as the ā€œsugaredā€ variety.

I’m so with you on Agave. A couple days ago I ran out of Truvia so I used some of the Agave I bought a while ago to sweeten my coffee. It wasn’t the worst thing I’ve ever tasted, but definitely was not awesome. Restocked with Truvia now. All better.

Pre-diabetes, I swore by agave.
Somewhere before I started being diabetic (at least 2 years before diagnosis), I just didn’t like it anymore.

I think it was too strong of a sugar for me. It was supposed to have a low glycemic index, but I could swear it was MUCH sweeter than table sugar.