Echo Therapeutics' Non Invasive CGMS

I came across this today. At the very least it appears to be very interesting technology. I'm curious as to how much this system would cost especially with "sensors" that need to be changed daily. It will definately be a money maker if it works.

That sounds like a great thing!

i have been waiting for this also. I have been watching them for a while. I hope they can break through

Gotta love "Each sensor can be used for one day (possibly 2-3 days in the future) before being replaced by a fresh one (an attractive source of recurring revenue)."

They never explain how it works. How the glucose in sensed etc. I tried the glucowatch 9 years ago and it was supposed to be non invasive, transdermal continuous sensor. It was not non invasive, in fact worse than standard subdermal sensors that most of us use. It just barely broke the skin but sat there irritating and had to be strapped tightly against the skin. Every 5 min it felt like I was electrocuted for each test. Because of this I am very wary of a product that does not mention how it works and how it is worn etc. Transdermal means it passes thru the skin... but how??? It makes me very nervous.

I did htat Glucowatch too, I think it was about 10 or 11 years ago for me.. Left brown circles on my skin and I I had a minor burning snsations while wearing it. It Was on occasion accurate, but was not consistently reliable and I had to stop using it.

I, too, wonder how the Echo system works..
Thanks for the info, Lady D.

God bless,

Here's an article explaining a bit more about how it works. It does sound non invasive.

They could get it.
The first 1 millimeter under the skin is rich of blood capillaries, to let us have the "sense of touch".
Beyond that first millimeter you get derma and fat tissue: CGM sensors and infusion set go there.
The studies about microneedles to inject and drain "fluids" (see article link) say that first millimeters is quicker to get in touch with your internal blood vessels, so it could be this CGM technology be better (and with less lag time) than the "tradional" ones sensing interstitial fluids.

We have to see how fast and well skin "repairs" itself ...

Echo has a device which takes away that first millimeter. Than they put in a gel to protect and conduit fluids and a sensor above it.
They don'use microneedles, but the principle is that one.

Exactly heaven forbid that they put the customer's qulity of life first, but such is the world in which we live. Everyone has to make a buck here or there. LOL

Tim and Brunetta, I'd often wondered about how the glucowatch worked. I saw a Youtube video of the symphony: There is some sort of gizmo you have to put on your skin before you apply the "sensors", a sander maybe? I would like more details myself. Hopefully, they will become available as/when the product becomes available.

As I wrote here, they have a device which "prepares" the skin. It removes about 1 mm of skin.
It was thought to dispense farma through skin, but they use it also for this CGM sensor

As good as that sounds you will have an ongoing expense just like test strips. Not sure overall if it will be cheaper or more expensive depending on how often you test. Personally I think the meter below will be far more cost effective for the patient especially since there won't be any ongoing expense....

So wonder how my tummy would look like after one year if I change sensor on a daily basis;)

+ Interested to see about the cost.

Anyway, interesting developments in the noninvasive-cgm market, considering that c8 medisensor seems to be quite ready to be launched.

The glucowatch had what they called a micro needle that sort of scratched your skin constantly and was very irritating to say the least.
I don't consider sanding my skin "non invasive" by the way.

I like that they started with the Android, but according to the article in the Silicon Valley/San Jose Buisness Journal it won't be available in the US for 18-24 months (how many times have we heard that one).

Here's another new cgm technology from EyeSense AG of Switzerland that doesn't seem to appear anywhere on Tu's forums. This one looks better. Read past the glucose sensor implanted in the eye (second link) and read in the first link where they tested a CGM interstitial placement which tested as accurate as a finger stick for a two week duration. The eye implant even though lasting a year is not a CGM but is just a fingerstick replacement.

Hi Karri,
I just ran into a person at an ADA Expo who is part of a study of the c8 starting in a couple weeks. It will be available in Europe first (what a surprise!)
The c8 website says the cost will be $4000 but it will last AT LEAST 4years. Here's the link:'

What tells me that somehow the test strip industry will make sure this never happens. Too much money to lose?