Here is an example of somebody reversing their diabetes by going on the newcastle diet. He chronicled his bloodsugars for 60 days, and how he cut medication and so forth. So it is possible.
Day 0: 10 / 180
Day 1: 10.5 / 190
Day 2: 9.8 /175
Day 3: 8.3 /148
Day 4: 6.7 / 123
Day 5: 6.4 / 112
Day 6: 5.7 / 103
Day 7: 5.0 / 90
Day 8: 5.6 / 100
Day 9: 4.8 / 87
Day 10: 4.5 / 81
Day 11: 4.6 / 83
Day 12: 5.1 / 92
Day 13: 6.0 /105 (Removed daily Januvia medication due to side effects)
Day 14: 4.1 / 74
Day 15: 4.7 / 84
Day 16: 4.1 / 76
Day 17: 4.6 / 83
Day 18: 4.7 / 84
Day 19: 4.8 / 87
Day 20: 4.4 / 80
Day 21: 4.6 / 83
Day 22: 4.9 / 89
Day 23: 4.4 / 79
Day 24: 4.3 / 78
Day 25: 4.3 / 77
Day 26: 4.9 / 89
February:
Day 1: 4.5 / 81
Day 2: 4.3 / 78
Day 3: 4.3 / 77
Day 4: 4.2 / 75
Day 5: 4.1 / 76
Day 6: 4.8 / 87
Day 7: 5.2 / 94
Day 8: 4.9 / 89
Day 9: 4.3 / 77
Day 10: 4.6 / 83
Day 11: 4.7 / 84
Day 12: 4.5 / 81
Day 13: 5.0 / 91
Day 14: 4.7 /84
Day 15: 4.7 / 84
Day 16: 5.0 / 91 *(Stopped taking Metformin completely) (100g carb tolerance test)
Day 17: 5.2 / 94
Day 18: N/A (Glucose meter malfunction, replaced)
Day 19: 5.0 / 90
Day 20: 4.7 / 84
Day 21: 4.5 / 81
Day 22: 4.8 / 88
Day 23: 4.6 / 83
Day 24: 4.8 / 88
Day 25: 4.7 / 84
Day 26: 5.3 / 95
Day 27: 5.1 / 92
Day 28: 4.8 / 88
Day 29: 4.7 / 84 (Final Day)
Iāve seen these sorts of claims before. It is meaningless. This diet is basically the same diet used to treat people with T1 before insulin. People lived as long as 4 years on the starvation diet. But it is terribly debilitating and ultimately fatal. People that go on virtually any diet have been shown to improve their diabetes condition and it has lasting improvements. Even the DPP which I have ranted about showed this. If you adopt Dr. Bās very low carb diet many patients will see exactly the same thing. The big difference is that on Dr. Bās diet you can sustain the diet indefinitely. With the Newcastle diet you cannot sustain the diet, you eventually die.
This is not reversing diabetes. Reversing diabetes involves returning to a non-disease state. I have seen no evidence that people like this person can return to their original diet and not have their diabetes rear itās ugly head again. Maybe he can experience some level of remission but that is no reversing no matter how many times the word reversing is repeated.
perhaps if you were more aware of what they are doing, Itās not for me because I feel those who are doing it, will go back to their old way of eating, get insulin resistant, gain weight and get their diabetes back.
if they go low carb, I think it could work
Taylor has said, he doesnāt care how you lose the liver and pancreas fat, as long as itās goneā¦1200-1500 cal diets are fine by himā¦or the 5+2
There is a great difference between going on a caloriestricted diet for a short period of time, and starving somebody to death, The newcatstle diet is not supposed to go on onto you die, but to let you normalize glucoseresponse through weightloss. and Type-1 is a whole another ballgame compared 2 type . Interesting that you would not even comment on the numbers.
Dr Bs diet is excellent for losing weight, but it is the weightloss that improves the diabetes, not just cutting carbs, The guy in the example can now return to eating normal food, and as long as he does not put back on the 12 kg lost, he will not get diabetes back.
Here is a researcher from Standford btw, reversing his diabetes with weightloss. He had a bmi of 24 when diagnosed and 22, when his sugars returned to normal after having lost 15 pounds. Again weightloss carries the day.
So luckily a cure exists for diabetes, it is just difficult to do.
Words matter and perhaps your statement of āget their diabetes backā does not accurately reflect where your sentiment lies on this issue. Just to be clear, diabetes does not go away. I completely disagree with people who talk in terms of a ācureā or āreversalā of diabetes. The use of the term reversal, in particular, raise my ire because I see it as adoption of a term when theyād really like to say ācureā but understand the backlash that brings. If you donāt really believe that diabetes can rarely be cured, then I think you could carefully use terms like āreversal of symptomsā or āremissionā and remain credible.
Diabetes that ācomes backā never really left. It is simply responding to successful treatment and is in remission. The fundamental metabolic truth remains: diabetes, once diagnosed, will rarely, if ever, leave. If the successful dietary treatment ceases, the symptoms of diabetes return and remission fails. Diabetes was there before, during, and after its remission.
Please understand that those of us that have dealt with baseless āpromises of a cure in five yearsā do not wish to be exposed to that painful emotional fairy tale. I respectfully request that you refrain from talking about a cure or reversal of diabetes. Without such care you will continue to read forceful pushback from those that know better. I wish you well.
I couldnāt disagree with you more. This regimen is not a cure for diabetes. If it were then when old dietary habits return the glucose disfunction would not follow. Your logic is fatally flawed. Why seek to characterize this seemingly effective treatment and elevate it to something more than it is, a way to put type II diabetes into remission?
Sorry, I just think we have a totally different view of the world. I believe that the view that obesity causes diabetes is just fundamentally wrong and very harmful.
Yes I agree, to me everything points to the fact that type-2 diabetes is for most people a reversible disease, as long as they lose enough weight. That is what I can conclude from most of the studies I have seen.
I guess you refuse to concede that type II diabetes cannot be reversed. In my mind reverse = cure and cure means that the disease state is gone without regard to any of the subsequent actions of the person. What is so difficult to understand that a āreversal of symptomsā is not the same thing as a reversal or cure of the disease itself?
I dieted and lost weight and my blood sugars were very low for quite some time until I had to go into hospital for a minor operation and when I was over the anaesthetic they fed me white bread sandwiches and you wouldnāt believe how quickly the weight came back and the blood sugar rocketed. Since I couldnāt face the low carb low fat diet again I have never reversed my diabetes.
@Terry4, I didnāt say how I feel, did Iā¦there is no cureā¦you may treat, reduce the effects of insulin resistance and get rid of liver and pancreas fat, to get a normal OGTT for the lucky onesā¦if they then become more insulin resistant (eat carbs), which increased weight can be a part of thatā¦ they get their diabetic symptoms back, they were and will always be a diabetic.
@Brian_BSC weight doesnāt cause diabetes, it can be a symptom and can loop to make it worse.
This gives a simple overview to how it works
For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. They donāt give up easy and itās biochemical Big Fat Fiasco pt. 5 - YouTube
@Pastelpainter you canāt do low carb and low fatā¦it will end in tears
āDr Eric C. Westman, MD and president elect of the American Society of Bariatric Physicians, has 15 years of experience helping patients lose weight and improve their health using low carb. He has also helped do several high-quality scientific studies on low carb.ā
" Donāt do low carb and low fat " @4.00 minutes in to video
I have this doctor that Iāve been with since swapping from the one that I started this blogg or whatever about. Heās told me that he thinks diabetics should have something like the AA. Why???
Because we can work our asses off and get semi-control of ourselves. But when we drop off the wagon so to speak weāre back even worse because all itās done is gone into remission. Not Reversed, not cured(he too like the one that dxād me said no cure will be all life), but in remission. And once we let go look out. He said weāre just like alcoholics in that they will never be back the way they were but will always be an alcoholic just under control but let control slip and what happens???
He has a sister who is one. Every time she goes on a business trip sheās already got the address and time of their meeting and makes sure she attends. So in his view he thinks we as diabetics need something similar to that. And when I often think about it at times I tend to agree with him in that.
So for all that say that it can be reversed the answer is no. I also get things about diabetes among other stuff from Webbmd. They had an article on the reversal. Guess what. Even they are chiming in on that there isnāt a cure, nor a reversal back to where we were before. They also say āRemissionā.
Funny. I never thought that my one post would get so much attention especially this far down the road from when I first created it. But Iām glad. Thereās been a lot of thoughts here on it. But still nothing to change my view in that thereās a reversible condition around. And as I stated earlier and always when I tell others what I do I will tell them in the same breath that they need to listen to their doctor and team, follow their advice and check with them before doing anything that I have done due to what works for me might not them because of how weāre all different. I told my brother that also when he informed me that he had joined this club of ours.
Yep. Runs in family. A first cousin, an aunt, one of my sisters, a niece, myself and now one of my brothers.
Sorry I jumped to the wrong conclusion. I focused on your words āget their diabetes backā and apparently thatās not your understanding. Please accept my apology.
As somewhere who has been there, done that, tried, failed, tried again I have come to 3 important revelations about my type 2 diabetes:
Thereās no cure available today or in the near future,
The disease is progressive and becomes more challenging to manage as we age,
The single most powerful tool that most of us have, a tool that over time is more powerful than any medication or injection, is our legs and ability to walk. Anyone doubting that can try testing their bg an hour after eating, then go for a one hour brisk stroll and test bg levels again. People are different but Iāve seen on myself results like dropping from above 200 to under 100 after that walk,
Been quiet, but Iāll comment. You are correct @Vancouversailor on all points; however, there is no one-size-fits all solution. I, for one did āall of the aboveā ā lost a significant amount of weight (around 25% of my starting weight), was active on a daily basis (including seeing 100 points of BG coming down from even a 20-min bike ride), and after all that was diagnosed. While all of these strategies assist me in controlling my BG, I cannot keep it fully under control without āmedication,ā which, in my case means injected insulin.
Type 2 diabetes is not a homogeneous disease - there are many variants and/or multiple causes. As such, while weight loss or pancreatic fat loss, or increased activity, better sleep, meditation or even meditation and acupuncture works for some, no single answer will work for everyone ā and even for those that it does āwork,ā that success will vary.
That is what I also tell people. What works for me might or might not work for someone else. They ask what I have done and continually do to keep me the way I am and I tell them. But I also add that ādisclaimerā you see in all those ads āthis is not a fit all, might not work for you, please check with your own medical provider before doingā.
I did say it wrongā¦it was my mistake and this is the worse thread to make that mistake in though 
