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Why???????
Of course there was a big hubbub over how thimerosal caused autism. It all originated with a paper by Andrew Wakfield. There was a big movement to try to ban thimerosal. Unfortunately, the paper by Andrew Wakefield turned out to have been fraudulent and the paper was subsequently withdrawn. The damage continues to this day as parents fail to vaccinate their kids.
Just curious to see if there is some correlation to the vaccines. What is your story?
I was vaccinated with all of these as a child and then developed diabetes.
How much time from being vaccinated to diabetes diagnosis may I ask?
Thimerasol another name for mercury, is in the insulin we inject under another name known as m cresol or meta cresol. So we inject daily ourselves with mercury. http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9923571 A link to read up on meta cresol or m cresol toxicity.
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I would say about 40 years. But I got diabetes after my vaccination.
I was vaccinated as a kid, then fell off my skateboard when I was 14 & broke my arm, which set off my type 1. The vaccine worked though.. :)
Sodium in it's pure form would cause a huge fireball if you put it in your mouth. But your body actually requires sodium. Thimerasol is a mercury compound. It has been used in millions of vaccine doses. Studies of the use of Thimerasol have not shown any significant adverse effect. And I agree with you, I don't recommend that anyone ingest pure mercury or pure sodium.
Ha ha lol that was good
My own theory about why I developed Type 1 is that I was born three months premature and spent the first four and a half months of my life in a near-sterile intensive care unit. I think this set the groundwork for screwing up my immune system. I think my immune system didn't have enough to keep itself busy so began attacking harmless particles and developed a ton of allergies and Type 1 diabetes (I got it when I was 9, but the process actually begins years earlier).
I don't know if I got the vaccines you mention, but if they are standard ones that kids and babies get, then I'm sure I did. As an adult I got the pneumonia vaccine and my body freaked out and made my arm swell up and red and itchy for two weeks after receiving the shot. The doctor said that, too, was just my immune system over-reacting ...
The one plus is that I almost never get sick, even working in a school for years or when bugs are making their rounds through the office.
I received only MMR immunization as an infant. The aliens abducted me and injected me with the diabetes when I was 7. They could have had a time machine, though.
I had all my shots as a child. Dx at 31. So, after.
I kind of think that the autoimmune response may have been triggered by the pneumonia when I was 14 or the mono when I was 20, but there wasn't a direct trigger. In fact, in the five years before I was diagnosed, I hadn't been to the doctor at all.
The last time I had a vaccine before dx, I was 22 and got a Hep B series before I went overseas. Again, that was 9 years before dx, so probably nothing to do with the diabetes.
HAHAHA Sam. You are funny. I got the POlio/ Pertussis vaccines as a very young kid, infant/toddler age range, and the polio sugar cube thing(Salk?) at around 5? I do not now what MMR is. I think there was no correlation whatsoever between the onset of type one and my vaccinations. I was 14, so they were definitely close to 10 years apart.
Fod bless,
Brunetta
I had a really bad cold a couple of weeks prior to my diagnosis. I do not know if it was a trigger or not. I do not know exactly what triggered the "rogue T-cells" to "beat down" my beta cells and render them ineffective, eventually killing them. I just know those T-cell renegades did it.
See research by the Faustman lab at Massachusetts General Hospital/http://www.faustmanlab.org
God Bless,
Brunetta
In which case they might have been humans, only very advanced ones who know about some incredibly special reason we all got this "gift".
There is a difference between correlation and causation. Correlation shows that two things seem to occur together; causation shows that one caused the other. Mistaking correlation for causation is a common error of us non-scientist types. Wiser minds than we (as Brunetta links above) are working on this issue. The myth about vaccines that Brian mentioned that got a hold and didn't let go for many people, even after it was proved false, caused a lot of people to get sick.
People, since the beginning of time, have embraced this common logical fallacy. It goes like this: because event "A" happened before event "B," A caused B. It's been with us for so long, it even has a Latin phrase to describe it: post hoc ergo propter hoc. Literaly, "after this, therefore because of this,"
For example, a man went to the hospital and then died. His grieving family concludes that the act of going to the hospital by itself, killed the man. That's a silly illogical conclusion but one that people still make to this day. Because I, or my child, received a vaccination before a type 1 diabetes diagnosis, the vaccination therefore caused the diabetes.
The more interesting question to me is, "Why do we humans still make this logical fallacy?" I think it's because we need to place some kind of order on the chaos that is life. Making some sense out of fateful events soothes our souls and gives us the ability to continue on with our lives. Falling for a logical fallacy, however, draws the wrong lesson. A better effort to make some sense out of chaotic traumas that inflict us is to use science to create order, where possible. Sound science disallows logical fallacies.
Sometimes logical explanations and science cannot explain a traumatic medical diagnosis. The explanation may be beyond the current reach of science or it may even simply be unknowable -- that, I believe, is where people use faith and religion to make sense of the world.
Over the years I've read many reports of this "vaccination conspiracy theory" thinking with respect to the burgeoning rise of autism spectrum diagnosis in children. Of course, childhood is the time when most children receive vaccinations that science tells us provides protection from disease.
An autism spectrum diagnosis must be a shocking event for the parents. I can understand the emotional chaos the ensues will drive some to latch onto some explanation, fallacious or not, that can help restore some semblance of order. This temporary life ring that some parents cling to to get through the diagnosis shock persists and grows to become an urban myth.
This disordered thinking damages our efforts to effectively deal with social challenges. A significant slice of society, though still small, now refuses to get childhood vaccinations and some diseases that had been virtually wiped out are now rising again. It threatens public health.
How should we, as a society, address this persistent problem? Well, we could start by restoring some critical analysis curricula in our schools. Instead of training students to regurgitate facts in response to a test question (teaching to the test), perhaps we could start by teaching them the meaning of post hoc ergo propter hoc.