Should I get the Covid Vaccine?

You live in Australia, correct? I have no idea what the current covid and/or vaccination situation is there so I can’t do more than speculate.

What I have heard on the BBC podcasts I follow is that covid is relatively contained in Australia at the moment. So I would suggest first getting the flu vaccination and also scheduling your covid vaccination for 2 weeks after you can get your flu shot. My thinking is the flu vaccine is a relatively straight forward single dose, but the covid vaccine process can take longer to work through.

Out of curiosity which covid vaccine would you be getting? I suppose if you are getting a two dose version of the covid vaccine you could also get the first covid, wait 2 weeks then get the flu jab, then wait two weeks more and get your covid booster jab.

Bottom line: If your situation is anything like what we’ve faced in the US, it will probably boil down to what is available and when it is available. :man_shrugging:

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This is from an Australian source, where they do have this issue. I did find other material that was less recent, and that was a bit muddled

When should I get a flu shot, and can I get it on the same day as the COVID vaccine? - ABC News

The minimum amount of time recommended between the two vaccines is 14 days.

This applies for both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines.

You can have your flu vaccine before or after your COVID vaccine, as long as you wait those 14 days.

However, when scheduling your vaccinations, ATAGI recommends:

  • If you are in the Phase 1a of the COVID vaccine, get it as soon as possible and then get the flu shot
  • If you are in a later phase of the COVID vaccine rollout, get your flu shot as soon as it is available, then your COVID vaccine when possible
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Yes, I got the common flu vaccine last November 2020 in the North Eastern US followed by Covid Moderna shot 1 in Feb 2021 and Moderna shot 2 in March 2021. I am expecting COVID booster shots being announced for COVID variants in the not too distant future and can’t wait for non-qurantine international travel, especially to Asia, to start opening up again as soon as possible.

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HI, Dee ~ Wouldn’t worry about getting the vaccine because of any possible rise in blood sugar.
My blood sugar actually started going a little lower after my first (Pfizer) vaccine early last month, and then continued going even lower after my second vaccine later in the month.
I’m still having the best numbers I’ve had in ages, and all the averages on my Libre CGM are reading lower, as well.
It’s been the only side effect to speak of that I’ve had, and I hope it continues.
So, did you get yours, yet??

Yes I saw it on the news yesterday. If nothing changes our international travel is opening up again.

haha yes that was because everyone was in lockdown so nothing to spread around. But things are starting to open up here. I have started going back to the office too and public transport and winter don’t go very well with the flu.

Careful is one thing but sometimes you have really selfish people around. I had a person enter the elevator without a mask and started coughing without even thinking to cover his mouth. I was about to tell him off but thought it was just best to hold my breath and quickly press the button to exit on the next floor.

Unfortunately there are a lot of these idiots covid or no covid.

Even when I’m out exercise, all of a sudden someone walks by without a mask in your direction and sneezes with covering their mouth, you don’t have time to react fast enough.

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I got my flu shot in October (California), with no issues, not even the sore shoulder that I usually get.

I got my first Pfizer shot on March 17. (Lots of people wore fun shirts for St Patrick’s Day. When else do we get to dress silly as a group these days?) I didn’t have any problems with BG or other symptoms, just a sore arm for a few days.

I’m supposed to get my 2nd shot on April 12 (Monday). My “weekend” is Tuesday and Wednesday, so I’m prepared to feel crappy! Time will tell.

I have Kaiser, and I kept checking my patient portal and pressing the COVID Vaccination Information button about once a week. When it said “make appointment” (instead of “sorry, we are unable to offer you the vaccine yet”), I was able to get an appointment about 1 week in the future.

I am still having muscle and joint aches 2 weeks after my first Moderna shot! Not debilitating but still uncomfortable. I was reading younger people also have worse reactions because of there strong immune systems. Since T1D is caused by a hyperactive immune system maybe this is why? I am a little concerned about the 2nd shot but I am way more afraid of getting COVID.

I think it would be best to contact your doctor. This is not a typical reaction, even for someone who is younger. Hopefully it fades in the next few days. Still, best to talk with your doctor- especially before getting a second dose.

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I agree you should contact your doctor. There are a very small amount of people who have been having more persistent rheumatological symptoms in response to the vaccine (inflammatory arthritis type symptoms). I have been going through that and have been advised to postpone my second shot (my rheum is now telling me he thinks I can take it, but with a 4 month interval rather than 1 month interval). You may want to ask whether delaying the second shot is recommended for you too, especially since one shot alone is quite effective in the short term, it’s more an issue about longevity of the response which is why they think two is a good idea.

Worth keeping in mind for anyone else reading this, I not only have T1D, but have for a long time had some positive blood test markers (high positive ANA) for rheumatological disease and it was unclear if something like lupus might be in the mix. But the vast, vast majority of people with autoimmune disease of any type, including more rheumatological forms, seem to be tolerating the vaccine fine. Furthermore, COVID infection itself has triggered T1D and rheumatoid arthritis, so my guess is the fact that the vaccine did this to me means I would have likely had a really awful and lasting response to the virus itself. So I do not regret getting vaccinated and still strongly encourage everyone else, including people with T1D, to do so.

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Thanks for the reply and information! I am also glad I got vaccinated. This manageable reaction is likely way less than what it would be like if I actually got COVID! I am taking Naproxen (Aleve) and it is helping a lot but I will talk to my Doctor on whether I should delay the second shot? I am reading some people that get COVID have had long lasting rheumatological effects that can last months including young, healthy athletes that have taken months to recover from it!

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@Mike_F I was specifically warned by the person giving me the shot to not take any antiinflammatories like Naproxen or Ibuprofen. That Tylenol was okay if I needed something. I got the J&J vaccine though and I don’t know on the warnings if it’s different.

Except for 5 minutes of initial arm pain I had no side effects at all with the J&J vaccine.

Update. My DP has been worse since my shot and I had more stubborness with my BG levels for about 5 days.

Some good news about treatment, for those not vaccinated yet, although the study wasn’t sufficient to know if it could help immunocompromised people.

NYT Article

Regeneron’s new data come from a clinical trial that enrolled more than 1,500 people who lived in the same household as someone who had tested positive for the virus within four days. Those who got an injection of Regeneron’s drug were 81 percent less likely to get sick with Covid compared to volunteers who got a placebo.

Regeneron Announcement

Phase 3 Prevention Trial Showed 81% Reduced Risk of Symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Infections with Subcutaneous Administration of REGEN-COV™ (casirivimab with imdevimab) | Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc.

That’s very concerning that you’re having lingering side effects from having the vaccine. I’m sorry you’re having to go through that.

I’m grateful that the vaccine side effects are not as severe as what the virus itself would likely have caused.

With cases going up again, it seems inevitable that everyone will get either the virus or the vaccine. The vaccine certainly seems the safest bet, especially with the spread of the B117 which appears to be more deadly than the original virus.

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I agree that it was more than likely gossip. I was just really surprised to hear that from an ICU nurse. I would like to think that gossip wouldn’t be on their list of things to do. But, I will say that Hydroxy was used in Morocco with much success from what I read last year prior to getting COVID.

I am still struggling Post COVID with shorthness of breath and pain. The three people I know who were given plasma and remdesivir didn’t have any of that by the end of January 2021. They were off oxygen by the middle of January, able to fully walk, no shortness of breath and minimal residual aches and pains (the pain isn’t so bad since I took the vaccine, which is weird). We all got COVID in December 2020. I was on oxygen until the end of February. Couldn’t fully walk until March. Again, I still struggle with shortness of breath. As a longtime runner of 30 years I can’t run. Walking is still difficult due to shortness of breath. The other people I know don’t have these problems at present. So, when I compare recovery time I compare it to mine and others who didn’t get plasma and remdesivir.

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I always say yes to anyone asking about should they get a vaccine. In my mind, it really doesn’t matter what it is for. Flu,yes, the measles, yes, Tdap, yes, shingles, yes, pneumococcal, yes! If it is out there, I am taking it. These vaccines have helped us stamp out some horrible diseases! No one wants or needs a small pox outbreak or a polio outbreak or how about a measles out break from a trip to Disneyland! If it’s available, we need to get it.
If I have a day or two of side effects, or some blood sugar issues that can be readily handled, I am all in. I prefer handling my high blood sugars in the safety of my own home vs ending up in ICU and having an overworked and overstretched medical team trying to handle my blood sugars! I strongly suggest getting whatever vaccine you can!

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Wife and I both had Moderna. She’s Type 2 and I’m technically Type 2 being treated with insulin as a Type 1. We had a little soreness and some flu-like symptoms on the 2nd dose, but definitely feel it was worth it. Definitely don’t want to wind up in the hospital on a ventilator.